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Quote: G1 "Quite. Had Child not butchered the forward pass decision for Webb's "no try" we may have pinched that game which would have been a travesty because Hull were far the better team.

We seemed intent for the first hour to throw the ball around without anyone showing a willingness to go forward and make the hard yards. Thier forwards certainly played better and their game plan was far superior.

For our 10 minute spell of dominance in the 2nd half it came because our forwards started going forwards. Too often this team wants to run before it walks.

We will improve significantly when Burrow is thrown into the mix but I do worry about our direction these last 18 months. We're too reliant on individual brilliance too often rather consistently playing well to a structured game plan.'"


Well said matey - The whinos team are not the "team" they used to be - some of your players believe they are better than they are - but you ARE Champions. The Rhinos were far better when Team Spirit was based on the players who came through together - Sir Kev seems to think he IS Leeds a014.gif Great kicker but he needs others to score !! icon_beat.gif

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Quote: El Diablo "In June we won 4 out of 4, with 206 points scored to 32 conceded. Including racking up 70 points in successive weeks. Which was funny while it lasted (it included Ali's 5 try haul at Wakey, a game I remember more for the pitchside announcer's rendition of "love really hurts without you" in a very Phoenix Nights-esque pre-match than anything else) but hardly thrilling.

We racked up more than 50 points on 10 occasions, passing 70 points 4 times, only one of which was against non-SL opposition.

The novelty does wear off after a while.'"

And it wore off very quickly for me in 2005. The season went from exciting at the WCC stage to fun being champions to very boring very quickly to hugely underwhelming as a results of the failures.

As I've said, give me 2011 achievements to 2005s under achievements any day of the week.

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Quote: Gotcha "As a non-season ticket holder it works well for me. I get to 5 or 6 games a year. I book my tickets to finals in advance, and I watch the rest on the TV.'"



So serious question Eagle. If we all did the same as you and had the same view, do you honestly think Leeds would have been anywhere close to having seasons 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2011?

They may well have still had the resources for 2007. But if everybody chose to pick and choose their games then the team would have been dismantled from 2008.

This is quite an easy argument for people picking and chosing matches, and going to a minority of games. I can't honestly say my view would be any different to yours, if I chose that route.

But for those that go to each game, not only at home but also plenty if not all away, it is that customer that gives the resources to enable winning the trophies at the end.'"

To be fair I am not the typicla supporter in that I live 70 miles away, with a nasty bit of M1 between work and the ground. Without the flexibility to leave work much earlier than 4:30 its touch and go as to whether I can get there, and get parked in time to make the kick off. I usually have a game on a Saturday, so have to get back that night. the whole thing makes it unfeasible to make Friday night games. THats why I pick and choose my games, because I don't have much choice. If I live in Sheffield or nearer I would probably have a season ticket.

You point is valid though that people attending matches and buying merchandise is the main reason we have the most resources in the league. If people stop attending for whatever reason we may start to struggle, as Bradford have. In the event that it happens I would trust that we would deal with the situation better than they did, whether that be to lower prices to entice more people in, or improve the quality. At the moment though there is no need to do anything. the team are successful on the field, and though they are not dominant in the league games, they are still the best performing financially by some distance.

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I kind of agree with Gotchas point about the lowering of standards, but it still doesn't mean its not entertaining. I would prefer a ding dong battle with a top team, like the game at Knowley road in 2007, but I'd take a last gasp win over the likes of Cas over a 70pt steam rollering if I were at the game.

I never get satisfaction from a defeat playing well, it also happens so rarely. When Leeds play well, they are rarely beaten

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Quote: The Eagle "I kind of agree with Gotchas point about the lowering of standards, but it still doesn't mean its not entertaining. I would prefer a ding dong battle with a top team, like the game at Knowley road in 2007, but I'd take a last gasp win over the likes of Cas over a 70pt steam rollering if I were at the game.'"


Oh make no mistake, as I said on the other page, the game at home to Wigan last season for me was a great game with Leeds incredibly unlucky. That was competitive, but also gave good rugby.

Just those performances in the regular rounds were few and far between.

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Quote: Richie "1. TBH, although a consistent attendee at Grand Finals, I never see many neutrals there. I'd reckon TV viewing figures are also significantly higher for playoff games and CC games, even if we suffer from apathetic fans - who we can't seem to get to get to fantastic events.

2....and when Australia play the minor nations over here, what are the attendances like for that? If internationals show the sports best players showing their best skills, why do the CC final and Grand Final get higher attendances than even England (or GB) vs Australia?

3. So now you're saying we can beat Australia?

4. Half of training is typically defending. I haven't claimed you can create real game situations in training. I claimed you will see top level skills more frequently in training than in matches, but that without something at stake those skills are meaningless.'"


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