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What an absolute farce. It's worrying that in the eyes of the RFL pushing an official is more dangerous than potentially crippling somebody.

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Quote: DHM "So the "Bailey" ban is now the gold standard for disciplinary rulings is it?'"

Not at all but if you read the previous posts they compare the two.
In my opinion Bailey was unfairly given 3 games end of.
The posters before me were comparing the relevant bans and I was explaining that the problem I have is that Bailey should not have been given 3 in the first place thus making Lestrange`s ban seem poor.
If it was Tomkins, Wellens or possibly Sinfield doing what Bailey did then IMO they may well have received a warning.
Because it was Bailey maybe they increased their ban.
Didn`t someone else not long after the Bailey incident do the same thing?
How many did they get?
It all boils down to inconsistancy by those at Red Hall.

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Quote: DHM "
Quote: DHM "It's working more by luck than judgement.

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It's not coached, non of the players think it's an acceptable part of the game, it's always at least a penalty, it's always scrutinised at Red Hall on video if not actually put on report, it's sometimes a card (and possibly red), it's usually a ban if found guilty of a dangerous tackle, it's a hefty ban if there is deliberate intent and if you injure someone permenantly then expect to find yourself in court (if McCracken's case is referenced).

But I guess it's all just luck.'"
I have been a victim of a fair few of these and also have been one of the defenders when someone has ended up on their head. I don't think my were intentional. through the problem is that it can happen in an instant. players are coached to left legs in order to get a man on the floor. it only takes one of the others involved to changed their grip or position and a man ends up on his head. its not pretty but to a certain extent its hard to prevent with multiple bodies all trying to move in different ways

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The whole disciplinary operation needs a complete overhaul IMO as the panalties that are handed out don't always merit the crime

That spear tackle on JP was one of the most dangerous tackles i have seen for quite a few years, it could have ended his or in fact any players career without a doubt.
Was Lestranges intentions/actions to make that vital tackle only 1 game more serious than Baileys nudge of Silverwood as he wanted to make his defensive contribution?

We need a system that has parity from top to bottom, one that everyone within the game can relate to and at present it's a joke

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The ban sends amessage that players need to be careful and take responsibility for dangerous play. It doesn't suggest that the act was deliberate. I think that's fair. I think it was reckless, as have been every other case I've seen in 20+ years watching the professional game. Tends to be people getting carried away trying to win the collision.

If I saw a case where you could be confident that the intention was to tip the player upside down and drive him head first into the ground, then franky the player responsible should never play again at any level. I've never seen it though, and I don't really expect to.

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Quote: The Eagle "I have been a victim of a fair few of these and also have been one of the defenders when someone has ended up on their head. I don't think my were intentional. through the problem is that it can happen in an instant. players are coached to left legs in order to get a man on the floor. it only takes one of the others involved to changed their grip or position and a man ends up on his head. its not pretty but to a certain extent its hard to prevent with multiple bodies all trying to move in different ways'"


Being a bit of a lightweight in my youth I was picked up and dumped many, many times - I don't think anyone was trying to drive me head first but I've been dropped from space several times.

I also still have the video from the JP semi in '87 and I remember John Basnett tackles Joe Lydon I think, lifts him right over his shoulder upside down and drops him. He'd be seeing a red card now for something like that, at the time it wasn't even commented on.

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