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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Nope, I didn't see any of that. I'm still waiting for those Peacock stats to back up your game-breaking assertions to enlightem me instead. How much longer do I have to wait?

Here's why James Graham was highly sought after by NRL clubs and why Jamie Peacock wasn't.

4N Final V Australia 2011
Graham 35 tackles, 1 ineffective, 1 missed, 19 runs, 134 metres gained, 1 offload
Peacock 27 tackles, 3 ineffective, 2 missed, 8 runs, 64 metres gained, zero offloads
V Australia 2008
Graham 33 tackles, 0 ineffective, 1 missed, 16 runs, 118 metres gained, 2 offloads
Peacock 34 tackles, 0 ineffective, 6 missed, 11 runs, 93 metres gained, zero offloads

No need because in the interests of accuracy, Peacock does invariably pirouette on one leg with his back turned at the point of impact, and in the absence of a Super League-esque offload under low-intensity SL match conditions (conspicuous by their absence at high-intensity international level against Australia of course) he then proceeds to continue through the full 360 degrees in order to position himself for his trademark and illegal quick PTB where the foot deliberately makes no contact with the ball.

I can point you in the direction of NRL teams who have turned up more than a week in advance of the WCC and where some even play a warm up game in the UK in the week prior to the WCC if you like? And guess what? They win. No surprises there, even if it's still a pre-season warm-up game for them.'"


If you love Australia so much why dont you f off and live there? Im sure due to your latest stats, that James Graham is looking for a flat mate to rub suncream on him and im quite sure he would love some one like you to do it for him. You make me laugh if you hate English RL and inparticular Leeds so much WTF are you doing wasting your time on here when you could be cracking one off to the NRL??

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Given the announcement of his extended contract I would suggests the odds of him still playing in two years are pretty high. Why would his contract be any different to the 3 years given to JJB?'"


The contract for JP could be different to the contract for JJB simply down to their age and effectiveness. Whilst both players started their top grade careers late (JP down to the age he started playing, and JJB down to injury problems at the start of his career) JP is much older and appears to be sliding down the hill much faster than JJB.

I think the announcement was down to missing Ellis tbh, if we had got Ellis then I doubt this would have been announced so early. I suspect GH thought we needed some positive news and released this news about the England Captain to try to but a better spin on a "bad news day".

In terms of what I think to the deal, 2 years is a long time in sport, and I doubt that JP will be in a position to play most weeks in his second year, assuming it is in fact a 2 year playing contract. I would have given 1 year, and then reviewed again after that. I agree with you that he looks very pedestrian at the moment.

One thing that is becoming clear is we need to bring Amor back from Wakey to cover the loss of Leuluai and the workload we are losing with Peacock in his current state.

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Quote: batleyrhino "The contract for JP could be different to the contract for JJB simply down to their age and effectiveness. Whilst both players started their top grade careers late (JP down to the age he started playing, and JJB down to injury problems at the start of his career) JP is much older and appears to be sliding down the hill much faster than JJB..'"


Careful, that's akin to heresy on here.

You could have put a traffic cone in that Leeds defensive line at times last night and it would have been more effective than either of the pensioner props.

Thankfully one's off already at the end of the season. Sadly, Hetherington has decided to balance it out by extending the contract of the other.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "The original point was how can sending our best players to the NRL benefit the game - my opinion is we need to make the international game more competitive, having our best players being conditioned, coached and playing alongside and against the best every week can only be a positive.
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It would be terrible for the game in this country, we would have lost all our best players.
Quote: Sal Paradise "Are the top players in SL comparable to the very best in NRL - not really, in the NRL there are - depending on position - 4-8 players in every position in the NRL that are better than any player in SL in the same position. If we talk about the centres it could be into double figures such is the derth of talent in SL'"
You mean centres like Brett Delany who is probably the 4th best centre at Leeds behind two kids and a back rower? Centres like Matt King who got shunted out on the wing for a player who cant even get in the elite training side in Ryan Atkins? Or Clinton Toopi? There isnt 4-8 players better than the best English players. There are some very good British players, and some very very good Australians, but there are also a fair few who are pretty damn average.

Quote: Sal Paradise "Roby should be better than Buderus - Buderus was well past his best when he came to Leeds - the fact he is still able to compete shows what a player he was at his peak. Roby is not as good as Issac Luke, Robbie Farah, Michael Ennis so to say he is the second best hooker in the world is a matter of conjecture not fact. He looks good in a poor league - the three I mentioned look good in a top league. It could be argued that Michael Monaghan is the best hooker in SL and not Roby'"
It is a matter of conjecture that Luke, Farah or Ennis are better than Roby not fact. Wayne Bennett has said that Buderus is the equal of Ennis, considering it is accepted by even you that Roby is a better player than Buderus, so it follows, unless you disagree with Wayne Bennett that Roby is better than Ennis.

Quote: Sal Paradise "In the last 20 years the Aussies system has also produced Benji Marshall, Brad Fittler and Laurie Daley so to say Lockyer is a once in a generation player isn't quite correct. The Aussies will produce another Lockyer in the next five years.'"
Bloody hell, we are going back to freddie fittler and Laurie Daley? Brad Fittler is 40 years old, how old do you think he was when the Aussies started bringing him through, Laurie Daley is 42, and he retired 13 years ago. Australia havent produced a Lockyer since Lockyer because he was such an outstanding player. lets not beat ourselves up that we arent producing once in a generation players. Even the best do it rarely.

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Peacock seems a shadow of himself this year on previous years. Admittedly only seen him twice this year on sky.

But good luck to him all the same.

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Lets face it JP is getting older, and like everyone else is getting slower. This will obviously have an effect on his performances and despite giving his best every week (and thats no a wind up) he is nowhere near as effective as he once was. I think this will be his last season as a player and he will move to the coaching staff, where he will have lots to offer.

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