he has shown glimses of a good player but no consistency

imho not a leeds player we want to take up an overseas quota

poor on friday was not the word but most of the team were aswell

The fact is BW has already offered up a poor display .... If he's not dropped, then this is what breeds complacency within the squad, by thinking how many poor games does it take to drop me ?

Bench him now and get him and a few other senior pros thinking about what will happen if they have a bad game or not running about as if their lives depended on it, they'll find they're getting dropped and kicking their heels until such a time as their hungry young replacement makes a similar mistake ....

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but I'd bet half the team were already thinking about the WCC rather than Wigan. BM is not going to take any risks next week - especially given we're only two games into the season and a number of potential replacements haven't even played a game yet.

I can't argue with that either TBH, but I would hope that going forward he does show a ruthless streak towards poor performers. We certainly have potential replacements for almost every position now.

considering most of the players had off days we were only a couple of bad decisions and badly dropped balls away from beating wigan
i'm still confident we can beat manly whatever the 17 is

Are you Maurice Bamford or Peter Fox? Sports psychology has moved on a little since the 1980s - it's not all about motivating your team through some sort of reign of terror.

BTW I've watched the season review a few times, and in highlights Hauraki has thrown some lovely passes. However, when I've watched entire games I've been less than impressed. He was in the box seat to play in the GF, especially as part of a team that beat Wire, but he was really poor in that game, making errors at bad times and areas of the pitch.

I don't know what game you guys were watching. The only two players who trucked the ball up with anything approaching hunger were Weller and Delaney. Leeds played for the most part like they didn't want to get hurt before Friday.
This Weller bashing is getting a bit ordinary now. If I could be bothered I bet I could find some very similar threads about JJB from a few years back, and Burrow from not so long back, and Ablett, Clarkson, McGuire and Webb.

It'll be interesting to see the stats, but even on re watching the game Weller is still coming out of it with credit.

No complaints about Delaney...but you might consider Hauraki's ball retention abilities were a little suspect

I don't know what game you were watching. JJB was a million miles ahead of anybody else, and the next closest who was miles ahead of the rest was Griffin, in regards the attributes you questioned.

Delaney may well take the ball up, but he is about as threatening as a baby rabbit. Hauraki blew so many chances for leeds he could have been the big bad wolf.

We were some way off competing with a competent Wigan side, we never came anywhere near troubling their line. Poor performances must result in players being dropped from the starting squad. If not we get complacency. A good number of players could have played themselves out of the starting line-up for Friday night. The only player guaranteed a start should be McShane, his performance was faultless on Saturday????

I thought Griffin was very good on saturday, him and JJB stood out whilst we were getting battered in the forwards.


Hauraki.........well, pfft, I'm just not convinced by him yet, he does a job to a degree but it's not a job that should take up a quota spot, he may come good you never know but he's no kid and his basic ball retention is a problem although his defence has improved in the last 12 months.