Quote Omar Little="Omar Little" Quote Omar Little="tad rhino"And certain players are on £15k a week. This comes from a first team player. Becchio, snodgrass and mccormack are three. Also, and i don't know which idiot agreed it, but paynter and brown are also on this. Leeds wage bill is £11m a year. More than enough at this level'" Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans... The quote in the Leeds programme was: Quote Omar Little="Bad Santa"Where’s all the money gone?’ is the latest chant from the vociferous few. Well, I’ll tell them. Simon Grayson’s player budget was £9.5m for the year. As I write, we have so far committed £11.722m, over budget by nearly 23 per cent. It is bad business practice but a demonstration of how far we have backed the manager and continue to do so.'" Now there's too important weasel words here: "player budget" that does not equal wage bill a more normal interpretation would be that it means wages and fees (whether for loans or signings). "committed" means its a projection for the whole season but we already know that they're trying to get rid of some players. (Also it seems likely this projection doesn't include Howson's sale as it wasn't completed at the time that was written) Also 11m is not "more than enough" at championship level - in 2009/2010 (the last year for which championship clubs accounts are publicly) 18 out of 24 Championship clubs had wage bills ([unot[/u "player budgets") of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! [url=http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/11/derby-countys-american-dream.html[uLinky[/u[/url'" Also the player budget broken down here as well www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/0 ... war-chest/

Quote Omar Little="Omar Little" Quote Omar Little="tad rhino"And certain players are on £15k a week. This comes from a first team player. Becchio, snodgrass and mccormack are three. Also, and i don't know which idiot agreed it, but paynter and brown are also on this. Leeds wage bill is £11m a year. More than enough at this level'" Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans... The quote in the Leeds programme was: Quote Omar Little="Bad Santa"Where’s all the money gone?’ is the latest chant from the vociferous few. Well, I’ll tell them. Simon Grayson’s player budget was £9.5m for the year. As I write, we have so far committed £11.722m, over budget by nearly 23 per cent. It is bad business practice but a demonstration of how far we have backed the manager and continue to do so.'" Now there's too important weasel words here: "player budget" that does not equal wage bill a more normal interpretation would be that it means wages and fees (whether for loans or signings). "committed" means its a projection for the whole season but we already know that they're trying to get rid of some players. (Also it seems likely this projection doesn't include Howson's sale as it wasn't completed at the time that was written) Also 11m is not "more than enough" at championship level - in 2009/2010 (the last year for which championship clubs accounts are publicly) 18 out of 24 Championship clubs had wage bills ([unot[/u "player budgets") of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! [url=http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/11/derby-countys-american-dream.html[uLinky[/u[/url'" Also the player budget broken down here as well www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/0 ... war-chest/

Also, not sure if this fella is a Leeds fan or just a follower of football but he does make some interesting points about the past week or so spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/21/the-cu ... ken-bates/ spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/24/ambiti ... -much-ire/

Also, not sure if this fella is a Leeds fan or just a follower of football but he does make some interesting points about the past week or so spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/21/the-cu ... ken-bates/ spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/24/ambiti ... -much-ire/

Grayson potted

Crazy decision. I can see that this has been coming for a while, but recently form had picked up a bit.
The new man in hasn't much chance to change things around, apart from the loan market (which seems to be all Leeds used anyway recently).

If they were going to sack him, surely beginning of Jan, on the back of three defeats in a row and with a full transfer window to do deals in would have been better.

Or would the sceptic in me say this is Bates trying to deflect some attention from himself. I understand he got a bit of heat from the fans last night

Where've you been for the last 7 years ? There's been anti-Bates feeling from the majority of the fans since the day he took over.

The right decision IMO.

He's done well for us has Grayson, but he'd never of got us promoted in a month of Sundays. Good luck to the bloke for the future.

Observing from afar. What I meant was that the Anti-Bates hatred (way OTT IMO) has stepped up a few notches recently

On your second point, I agree. Nice guy, got us out of League 1, and a win against Man Utd, but not good enough to go further. I know he's despised by nearly everyone, but I see Warnock has been mentioned, and he would do well at ER. We would then truely be the most hated club in the land, by some distance, having the holy trinity of Chairman, Manager and Fans

I think people genuinely wanted Grayson to do well. However it has become obvious he isn't up to the job. It was time for a change

True. But we'd never be the most hated club in the Premier League.

Having said that, incompetent chancer Steve Bruce would be an even worse appointment.

We would, just not for that long if most of his managerial career is anything to go by

We should try and get Chris Houghton (sp) from Birmingham, doubt he'll come here but he'd be ideal.

Di Matteo has also been linked, but I hear Bates already offered him the job after the Burnley game but he turned it down.