Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"I Read earlier that Grayson has loaned a massive 66 players in his time at Leeds. Not only do I find this embarrassing but I'm struggling to think of any who have been anything more than average.'" 66 since we got relegated in 2004 31 loans for Simon Grayson, 5 of which were emergency cover for goal keeping www.thebeatengeneration.co.uk/tb ... n-players/

Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"I Read earlier that Grayson has loaned a massive 66 players in his time at Leeds. Not only do I find this embarrassing but I'm struggling to think of any who have been anything more than average.'" 66 since we got relegated in 2004 31 loans for Simon Grayson, 5 of which were emergency cover for goal keeping www.thebeatengeneration.co.uk/tb ... n-players/

right sorry. still far too many for me

Interesting how Redknapp's undeclared money has been shown to go straight out of the football club through Monaco, of all places.

Of course, Harry's not non-domiciled, so HMRC can nail him for it. If he'd have officially lived in Monaco, then there would have been no comeback on how much he took out of the club.

Looks like we're getting Ben Parker on loan.

I was happy about this until I heard about his petulance in the Pavilion on Saturday! We can do without behaviour like that at our club!

Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans...

The quote in the Leeds programme was:



Now there's too important weasel words here:

"player budget" that does not equal wage bill a more normal interpretation would be that it means wages and fees (whether for loans or signings).

"committed" means its a projection for the whole season but we already know that they're trying to get rid of some players. (Also it seems likely this projection doesn't include Howson's sale as it wasn't completed at the time that was written)

Also 11m is not "more than enough" at championship level - in 2009/2010 (the last year for which championship clubs accounts are publicly) 18 out of 24 Championship clubs had wage bills ([unot[/u "player budgets") of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! [url=http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/11/derby-countys-american-dream.html[uLinky[/u[/url

You talk as if all theses things are in the past. The clubs finances remain as opaque as ever and we've missed a chance to buy the clubs property assets back at below the market value for no logical reason (well they are a few obvious possibilities but they all point back to KB).

The club may not have the direct financial problems it used to have but it Bates is leading the club down the exact same path as he did with Chelsea and the only people who came out of that well were Bates and his cronies.

There are plenty of things on that list that are still happening, but the point is that not all of them are, so we're in a much better position than we were 4or 5 years ago

There are plenty of things on that list that are still happening, but the point is that not all of them are, so we're in a much better position than we were 4or 5 years ago

Quote Omar Little="Omar Little" Quote Omar Little="tad rhino"And certain players are on £15k a week. This comes from a first team player. Becchio, snodgrass and mccormack are three. Also, and i don't know which idiot agreed it, but paynter and brown are also on this. Leeds wage bill is £11m a year. More than enough at this level'" Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans... The quote in the Leeds programme was: Quote Omar Little="Bad Santa"Where’s all the money gone?’ is the latest chant from the vociferous few. Well, I’ll tell them. Simon Grayson’s player budget was £9.5m for the year. As I write, we have so far committed £11.722m, over budget by nearly 23 per cent. It is bad business practice but a demonstration of how far we have backed the manager and continue to do so.'" Now there's too important weasel words here: "player budget" that does not equal wage bill a more normal interpretation would be that it means wages and fees (whether for loans or signings). "committed" means its a projection for the whole season but we already know that they're trying to get rid of some players. (Also it seems likely this projection doesn't include Howson's sale as it wasn't completed at the time that was written) Also 11m is not "more than enough" at championship level - in 2009/2010 (the last year for which championship clubs accounts are publicly) 18 out of 24 Championship clubs had wage bills ([unot[/u "player budgets") of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! [url=http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/11/derby-countys-american-dream.html[uLinky[/u[/url'" Also the player budget broken down here as well www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/0 ... war-chest/

Quote Omar Little="Omar Little" Quote Omar Little="tad rhino"And certain players are on £15k a week. This comes from a first team player. Becchio, snodgrass and mccormack are three. Also, and i don't know which idiot agreed it, but paynter and brown are also on this. Leeds wage bill is £11m a year. More than enough at this level'" Oh how easily Bates manipulates Leeds fans... The quote in the Leeds programme was: Quote Omar Little="Bad Santa"Where’s all the money gone?’ is the latest chant from the vociferous few. Well, I’ll tell them. Simon Grayson’s player budget was £9.5m for the year. As I write, we have so far committed £11.722m, over budget by nearly 23 per cent. It is bad business practice but a demonstration of how far we have backed the manager and continue to do so.'" Now there's too important weasel words here: "player budget" that does not equal wage bill a more normal interpretation would be that it means wages and fees (whether for loans or signings). "committed" means its a projection for the whole season but we already know that they're trying to get rid of some players. (Also it seems likely this projection doesn't include Howson's sale as it wasn't completed at the time that was written) Also 11m is not "more than enough" at championship level - in 2009/2010 (the last year for which championship clubs accounts are publicly) 18 out of 24 Championship clubs had wage bills ([unot[/u "player budgets") of over 12m. In the same year Leeds' wage bill in League One was 14m! [url=http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/11/derby-countys-american-dream.html[uLinky[/u[/url'" Also the player budget broken down here as well www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/0 ... war-chest/

Also, not sure if this fella is a Leeds fan or just a follower of football but he does make some interesting points about the past week or so spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/21/the-cu ... ken-bates/ spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/24/ambiti ... -much-ire/

Also, not sure if this fella is a Leeds fan or just a follower of football but he does make some interesting points about the past week or so spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/21/the-cu ... ken-bates/ spoughts.co.uk/2012/01/24/ambiti ... -much-ire/

Grayson potted