As a assistant coaching thought he was great. As a first team coach I thought he did ok with a poor side. Then he came back to Leeds and I thought he was next to crxp. But then he got us to the cc final and we were mm's from winning that. After that we won the grand final and now I think he is a great coach. What do I know?

Another interesting link to Leeds in that article....Dean Bell involved in youth development at Warriors...the same guy that brought so many of today's SL champions through the youth system at Leeds.

Did he?

Bell packed up at the end of the 1999 season to move into a similar role with Wigan. At that time Sinfield and I think JJB had already made their first grade debuts, while McGuire and Burrow were still at least 18 months away from breaking into the first team squad.

Bell may well have put structures in place that served the club well, but I'm not sure he can take too much credit for the development of young players in his two years in a youth role at Leeds.

Your point duly acknowledged. Bell nevertheless takes a lot of the credit for putting those systems in place.

It's worth remembering that Sinfield broke through at a very young age. Some of the others may have taken longer to get into the first team, and I may be wrong, but I'd have thought many of them would have been there as juniors under Bell.

You have just described Tony Smith.