look no further than Sinfield and chase for Englands poor showing, not a clue the pair of them.

JJB is a machine. Fact.

We do desperately need some big, dynamic ball carriers though, somebody who's going to run over the top of people with reasonable frequency and make holes in the defensive line. JJB and Westwood were both good I thought, but that isn't really their role. As Leeds are discovering in trying to replace Lauititi, game-breaking forwards are not actually all that easy to come by.

Thaiday and Williams in particular were frightening in possession, although the latter is still a little on the raw side. Imagine what he's going to be like if he cuts the errors and penalties out.

Williams could be amazing, he's a real handful. That Aussie pack has a lot more power in it than ours. I was struck with how much they dominated each collision and got a quicker PTB than our forwards. Thurston and Lockyer got far more time on the ball to effect good kicks thanks to them. I wonder how good they'd look behind our pack?

Good to see the clueless bell--end is back to his best

Sam Burgess will help, as stated above. Wasn't Ben Harrison in the squad? I hope Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook can take the next step and there's obviously Bailey on the periphery if he can maintain last year's form.

Isn't Ben Harrison Irish? Still that type of issue hasn't stopped Danny Brough and Rangi Chase "volunteering" for England.

Harrison is a decent player, but isn't at the right level just yet. With Graham, (Sam) Burgess, Bailey and LMS wehave a reasonable 4 to play, but IMO there is little if any depth behind them.

Stick a fork in Peacock and Morley at this level, they're done.