played on a 4g in hong kong last year and it was really good, i think one could certainly benefit leeds "rugby" long term, it seems we are getting harsher winters and since headingley has'nt got undersoil heating there would be no postponments due to frozen pitches so games would get to go ahead.

Doesn't artificial grass have a substrate that can freeze? Would it not still need an undersoil heating system?

In comparison to natural grass the characteristics of play on artificial turf are more stable. Artificial turf pitches are drained in an efficient way and can also be played on a lot quicker after a heavy downpour than a natural grass pitch. If you live in a region where there are harsh winters, then you may consider integrating a heating system under your artificial turf.

i suppose it depends what they mean by harsh i guess

Is that the old Archie Gordon Ground one? Wondered what all the new fencing up around it was about.

Yep, like I say it's got 5-a-side football markings on it so would imagine the council have said it has to be available for the public a certain amount of time but it's being used already for Rob Burrow's training camp sessions, yet Milford seem to be using a pitch over on Abbey Fields instead of this new artificial pitch.

It used to be owned by the Leeds Schools Sports Association, but I'm not sure who owns it now or whether there was any sort of covenant on the purchase.

Ah that might explain it, I always assumed there was some kind of council or "other" involvement with Milford playing on it regularly.

Whether there's been a c0ck-up with the size of pitch or whether its just Milford or the league not liking artificial pitches I don't know.

LSV at Leigh's the same mate and is ok, never heard anyone complain about it.

Under-pitch heating for an artificial pitch is presumably much simpler than for a grass one anyway? Under a grass pitch you have the problem the old Headingley pitch developed, where you bake a hard layer (especially in clay soils) which affects drainage. I assume modern under-soil heating systems have clever ways of getting round this, which would not be an issue in an artificial pitch?