You're not as daft as you're making out. You know my point.

Average players hide in most great sides, especially in the Salary cap era. Our great 2006 side had Gardner, our 2002 side had Mike Bennet. Our 2000 team was filled with Jonkers and Stankevitch.

Ryan Bailey is average (not rubbish) but average. However when talking about the lads attitude and personality he comes across as a grade A plonker.

Quote Keith Swiftcorn="Keith Swiftcorn"I don't know for sure if it's true or not but there appears to be mounting evidence of Bailey's obnoxious behaviour towards bullying younger opposition players which is taking place after a game has finished. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=506108 If this bullying and squaring up to young players is true, it's nothing to be proud of and it's about time he grew up.'" Oh yeah I remember that - there was a lengthy RFL inquiry and the police considered pressing charges didn't they...oh no, silly me that wasn't it was it, no IIRC the Wigan youth player deleted the tweet and never mentioned it again (perhaps after someone explained the principle of libel to him) AP - you really have lost it

Quote Keith Swiftcorn="Keith Swiftcorn"I don't know for sure if it's true or not but there appears to be mounting evidence of Bailey's obnoxious behaviour towards bullying younger opposition players which is taking place after a game has finished. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=506108 If this bullying and squaring up to young players is true, it's nothing to be proud of and it's about time he grew up.'" Oh yeah I remember that - there was a lengthy RFL inquiry and the police considered pressing charges didn't they...oh no, silly me that wasn't it was it, no IIRC the Wigan youth player deleted the tweet and never mentioned it again (perhaps after someone explained the principle of libel to him) AP - you really have lost it

No you're everybit as daft as I'm making out and possibly even more so.

Bailey has been an integral part of championsip winning teams in 2004 ,2007,2008, 2009 and 2011.

He's won 5 titles under 3 different coaches and has never been dropped from the side for any notable length of time by any of those coaches.

How many times as he been picked for England in that time ? A England team who are not filled with quality props. Ryan Bailey is average.

Peacock
Morley
Graham

About as good a 3 props as you could wish for for the last 5 years. Add players like Carvell, Crabtree, Fielden and you can see why he has missed out.

In 2010-11 he has fulfilled his early potential and been outstanding for us.

and I think he will still be at the club when he qualifies for a testimonial after Danny McGuire

A TMFMISL shirt would surely become a key part of said testimonial.

Who else is due?
2012 - McGuire
2013 - Bailey
2014 - Ablett
2015 - Smith
2016 - As good as he is, despite BM's words today I'm not expecting JP to still be going then...so Kirke?!!
2017 - Sinfield - 20 years
2018 - Hall
2019 - BJB/McShane/Watkins
2020 - Clarkson
2021 - Hardaker/Singleton

*I don't really think all those player will stick around that long

Wilkin is happy with the paler celebrations but doesn't like the darker ones.

Come back and ask that question later tomorrow

Not your problem flower so don't you worry about it.

Wilkin crying after losing yet another Grand Final?

Classic Bailey.