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Quote: snook "
On the final whistle the team came over to applaud supporters in the away stand which was about threequarters full I feel because it is the done thing to save further critisism not because they appreciated the following.'"


Except Webb who sculked off into the changing rooms, hoping, I presume, that no one noticed. He does this most weeks

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Its the chopping and changing I don't like. Halfbacks should play the full 80 minutes at halfback unless they get injured. Whether that's Sinfield/McGuire, Sinfield/Burrow or Burrow/McGuire it doesn't matter. There's no other team I can think of that rotates halfbacks regularly like Leeds.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Its the chopping and changing I don't like. Halfbacks should play the full 80 minutes at halfback unless they get injured. Whether that's Sinfield/McGuire, Sinfield/Burrow or Burrow/McGuire it doesn't matter. There's no other team I can think of that rotates halfbacks regularly like Leeds.'"


The problem is we used to get away with "carrying" a half back at loose forward, but over recent seasons our lack of go forward from the forwards and backs has really stood out. I don't think, particuarly given the strong packs of Weegan, Hudds, Wire & St's, that we can afford to have a single pack member who doesn't take the ball up aggressively. Sinfield has to play so 6 is the obvious postion.

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Quote: El Barbudo "I think David's partly right (not about the sacking).
Sinfield is on record as thinking he's a six and so, it seems, does McDermott.
So, obviously, you then play your usual stand-off at 7.
And you put your normal 7 on the bench, of course, or maybe bring him on at 9 to give the old feller at 9 a rest.
And because your 7 is now your spare hooker, McShane gets no game time.
Oh.. and Sinfield (being a six) gets a spell in the centres during defence and then we miss him defensively in the middle.
All very logical.
When has sinfield said he's a six? I'm not trolling just genuinely can't remember him ever saying it (oh and everyone knows sinny is a 10..."he's well fit in'he" icon_surprised.gifops: )

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Quote: Les Norton "The problem is we used to get away with "carrying" a half back at loose forward, but over recent seasons our lack of go forward from the forwards and backs has really stood out. I don't think, particuarly given the strong packs of Weegan, Hudds, Wire & St's, that we can afford to have a single pack member who doesn't take the ball up aggressively. Sinfield has to play so 6 is the obvious postion.'"


I'd agree with your point but it's not a problem that we've only had this year and this is why (for all his faults) I can't see why people think Sinny at 6 is a BMcD brain fart. The modern game has moved more and more towards workhorse LF's and away from playmakers - to get away with not having a big 13 you need a dominant pack.

The messiah that is Tony Smith also had the same issue eg Furner played at 13 in the 2004 Grand Final - I guess the enabler for Sinny playing more at 13 would be that we brought in Ellis and then JP meaning we had a pretty special pack - our pack in 2007-2008 must have been one of the best Leeds has ever fielded (...and didn't Kirke play in both those GF's icon_wink.gif )

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I do agree with the issue of Sinfield at loose forward weakening our pack a bit, although Clarkson is hardly a human wrecking ball either. Unless Ali is fit we severely lack power forwards. Next season we look even lighter in that area - we won't have a single forward that really tests the opponents' line with the ball.

Having said that, its not as if this issue has been unknown for a long time. Eastwood was supposed to help fix that, and the gradual decline of Lauti'iti, Peacock and Leuluai hasn't helped - our front row has gone from being very solid to struggling for parity. That in turn has highlighted the averageness of our back row IMO.

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