A few years ago everyone kept going on about how Saints had never lost a grand final... The rest is history.

That's the problem with this country. Too many liberal do-gooders.

How very dare you!

I've been called some things in my time but there's a limit.

If you like seeing statistical errors, the Rhinos' website is right up there with the best. Some of it looks like it was put together as a school project.

a prop should make at least 15 carries when starting the game and 10 when they are not. 5 and 6 carries is'nt a fantastic work rate for someone who gets at least 30 minutes of game time in fact its poor kirke should be looking to take at least 2 a set i can't recall him ever doing this. for a giant of a man he runs the ball in like someone half his size.

Agree 100%. I've waited a few years now for him to develop into a natural replacement for JP. But sadly their respective application on the field is at opposite ends of the scale. If you could only "bottle" JP's attitude (that almost single-handedly won the Bulls the 2005 GF) and got Kirkey to drink some...