A few years ago everyone kept going on about how Saints had never lost a grand final... The rest is history.

Gerry or Sylvia?

Indeed... personal ego at the expense of the team.

Huge call

Which leads me nicely to Saturday's comments by Messers Balding, Millward, Noble and Woods.

Balding: Leon Pryce has won three Challenge Cup winners medal with Leeds (=#FF0000no comment)

Millward: No team has done the Grand Final and Challenge Cup double during the SL Era (=#FF0000of course they haven't, listen up Bradford and St Helens fans you might learn something)

Noble: Says nothing despite being one of the two coaches to do just that in 2003 (=#FF0000Daniel Anderson being the other in 2006)

Woods: How many Lance Todd Trophies has Sean Long won? Is it four or five? (=#FF0000it's 3 - 2001, 2004, 2006)

They are in serious need of a Bill Frindall or a Statto in order to provide legitimacy.

You should apply for the job if it's ever offered

You weren't seriously expecting any kind of sensible input from the BBC presentation team were you?

Millward would have been too busy figuring out how many G&Ts he'd have to get into Clare Balding before she would sleep with him. Noble's got all the charisma of a baked bean and Woods is about hospital radio level.

Throw in John Kear's constant sycophantic butt-kissing of the match officials - no matter what the quality of their decision making - and you've got a presentation team so bad it makes me wish Sky would take exclusive rights to all rugby league just so I never have to encounter them again.

He'd be barking up the wrong tree there!

AndI think the answer would be around 8.

It's Basil we're talking about here.

No tree is a wrong tree, just some are harder to climb than others.

The only image I'm working with at the minute is Clare Balding in full, skimpy, cheer-leaders attire.

My blood now runs chilled.

On Sunday both Ray French and John Kear somehow contrived to mention the sell out crowd in attendance as the camera was panning across banks of empty seats.

Perhaps it's just the individuals who have sold out.

I was keeping an eye out for Kirke during the game. Seemed quite effective when he put himself forward for the ball, but I still think he needs to take the ball more.