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Quote: marcel "For a side to win the GF from such a lowly position a number of factors needs to be in play.

They need to be in awesome form, have the ability to win it in the first place get some luck in the tight playoff games and have a few teams above them self destruct in some way.

When bradford won it in 2005, the only team to win from outside the top 2, they finished 3rd and they had everything going in their favour. They pretty much had a first choice 17 fully fit, all their key players were fireing, they had the coach and the players that had won it before, they had new players added to the team (an already strong squad) before the playoffs and the 2 teams above them self destructed. Both got injuries to key players - saints more than leeds, and leeds burnt out.

When you consider all the factors that fell into place it wasn't even a shock when you look back with hindsight.

And all this was in place for a team that finished 3rd and had made tghe previous 4 grand finals winning 2!!!!

Leeds have no chance of a grand final win this year because they aren't good enough, let alone having everything going in their favour at the right time.'"


I think Bradford were found gulity of breaching the salary cap that year. Adrian Morley ??

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Still trying to re-float their economy? I seriously think that country would go bust without his and M's frequent visits.

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Such hypocrisy would deserve to be highlighted although I suspect the chances are (unlike me) pretty slim this year.

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Quote: tvoc "Don't get me wrong I am 100% behind the play-off concept which has served the sport for the overwhelming majority of it's existence, it's just that I want to see the title earned and go to a team that deserves it from a season long campaign not just from a burst of form at the end. The play-offs need to be weighted in favour of the two teams finishing highest on the ladder and I'm not sure that is the case with the present format. '"


I agree that there isn't quite enough weighting towards the top team now. I wouldn't mind that being tweaked. In my ideal world I would say that the weighting should be such that you feel a team coming from outside the top 2 has such a lot to do that you'd feel they had earned their title. At the moment I think the only reason it's a herculean task is that they evidently weren't as good as teams above them, who therefore beat them. If teams were closer together in quality and the top 8 was very much bunched up I think it would be very possible.


Quote: tvoc "If it hasn't dawned on supporters by now it probably never will but the reality is there has yet to be a winner from below 3rd (and even that was a one-off (from 13 finals) attributable as much to the antics of one Wigan player as it was to Bradford busting the salary cap and bringing in a ringer in order to win it. '"


Are you suggesting that 13 or 14 years is long enough for an average RL fan to learn anything? 7.94189453125:5
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