Agree with most of that. Don't think Burrow was very good though: lost a lot of defensive linespeed and intensity when Buderus went of, and drive and organisation in attack. Not his fault, but Rob is just not equiped to play as a go-forward hooker. It was while he was on the pitch that Wigan dominated us. McShane would have offered more as a bench hooker.

Webb was good. Ablett was good. BJB looked really, really dangerous but needed more ball. Kylie had his best game for some time. Kirke did some decent things for a change in his time on the field, but don't think he played a minute of the second half?

Also, Wigan didn't play very well, IMO.

So BMcD got his wish. Better performance but no win. Can't say I'm that delighted with that, and I hope he's not either.

That sums it up very well for me. Wigan were lucky to get away with that. We didn't play our best (although we weren't poor), but now have that "winning edge" that Leeds used to have.

Jamie Peacock, as good as he is, can't be expected to take on the job of the entire pack on his own, but your other props were poor. McGuire's still a class player but not in the best of form. I used to get worried every time Burrow got the ball a few years back, but now he seems to have completely lost his way. You've got some decent youngsters in the outside backs though.

Every team waxes and wanes over the years, it's inevitable. You've had a few great years, you'll probably now have a few average ones, just like us.

Can't argue with any of that really

We were average. Worst place league finish was 7th in recent years (that was admittedly after being 6 points clear at the bottom of the table with 8 games to go ). In a league of 12, 7th is about average.

I don't really give a t0ss what other Wigan fans have said on here. Teams' form, as with dynasties, come and go.