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| While recruitment has played a part etc. McDermott really does set himself up for all the abuse he gets.
- His ridiculous interviews - one week - we need to control the ball more, the next week - we need to throw it around more. Its the sort of thing someone who knows nothing about the game shouts from the terraces. And thats the tip of the iceberg, some of his post game quotes like after shipping 40-odd away at warrington - I thought there was a big improvement in defence. On Friday 'we didnt do too badly' With comments like this I have zero faith he should be a coach in super league let alone of Leeds. If this is the sort of stuff he tells the players no wonder there is no structure.
- Playing with the rubber glove at half time v Wigan.
- His ridiculous vantage point v Bradford that even the Sky commentators couldnt believe.
- Letting Lowes do the half time team talk in one game cant remember who against.
- Reading the programme 5 mins before kick off the other day.
These are small things but its what fans remember and sticks in the mind. Anyone recall anything else?
I just think that he is making a deteriorating squad look a hell of a lot worse.
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| Looking at the league table this afternoon, and it's not unthinkable that Leeds could finish outside of the 'Top 8'
Leeds vs Bradford in a couple of weeks is now looking a massive game, which could bring Bradford level on points!!
I still have faith that Hetherington will find a solution and appease the masses.
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| How frustrated are people with the current situation at Leeds?
Would you wish to see Leeds lose a few more games in the hope that this may force a change on the coaching front, at the risk of not making the top 8?
Would you be happy to see Leeds go out of the CC against Hull to show how far off the pace we are, in the hope that it would lead to more new players next year?
I suspect that there are some who would happily see us lose more games this season, continuing to play poorly, in the hope that this might be a catalyst for change throughout...
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| Would never want us to lose. I would like to think that the powers that be would not need to see us lose any more to realise things are not right
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| I always want Leeds to win, and every true fan should have the same mentality.
Things will sort themselves out eventually. It's happened before.
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| Quote batleyrhino="batleyrhino"How frustrated are people with the current situation at Leeds?
Would you wish to see Leeds lose a few more games in the hope that this may force a change on the coaching front, at the risk of not making the top 8?
Would you be happy to see Leeds go out of the CC against Hull to show how far off the pace we are, in the hope that it would lead to more new players next year?
I suspect that there are some who would happily see us lose more games this season, continuing to play poorly, in the hope that this might be a catalyst for change throughout...'"
As frustrating as the curent situation has become i could NEVER personally want a Leeds team to lose.
What i do hope however is IF we go on another run against the lower teams in the league and still get caned when we face a top 4 side that the "winning streak" doesn't paper over the cracks and that GH already has plans NOW to change things because i don't see anything of what could be classed as a reasonable season under this coach with this squad.
The team could and should be doing better that's a given but the Coach is just as much to blame if not slightly more so especially where selection and tactics are comcerned.
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"As frustrating as the curent situation has become i could NEVER personally want a Leeds team to lose.
What i do hope however is IF we go on another run against the lower teams in the league and still get caned when we face a top 4 side that the "winning streak" doesn't paper over the cracks and that GH already has plans NOW to change things because i don't see anything of what could be classed as a reasonable season under this coach with this squad.
The team could and should be doing better that's a given but the Coach is just as much to blame if not slightly more so especially where selection and tactics are comcerned.'"
Agree fully. Don't think the cracks will be papered over, we could well lose to some
of the teams below us as well they way we are playing and how other sides pick up. If as some have said senior players are not happy we could be in some dire situations and will not go on any sort of run. I think the only thing that will paper over the cracks this season is lifting challenge cup, and I can't see that happen
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| Quote batleyrhino="batleyrhino"How frustrated are people with the current situation at Leeds?
Would you wish to see Leeds lose a few more games in the hope that this may force a change on the coaching front, at the risk of not making the top 8?
Would you be happy to see Leeds go out of the CC against Hull to show how far off the pace we are, in the hope that it would lead to more new players next year?
I suspect that there are some who would happily see us lose more games this season, continuing to play poorly, in the hope that this might be a catalyst for change throughout...'"
If the situation is in fact as it appears from the outside looking in (a big if), I would want what is best for Leeds in the longer term, which means a change of coach to manage the transition and make the necessary sweeping changes. I don't think I'd want Leeds to lose from the outset of a game but when it is apparent that we're not being competitive part of me is pleased when the scoreline starts to rack up in the hope that it will lead to the aforementioned changes occurring.
So in other words, yes...
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| The blame should be apportioned through out all of those involved in the recruitment and stanadrd of players performances. There is root and branch surgery required to get this team back on track. Some hard decisions have to be made re the playing roster and GH should be well aware of that.
Ali, Kirke, Bailey, Webb, Kylie should leave.
Burgess out of contract and likely to leave.
Hauraki and Cross no point being here.
Performances under McD and Lowes magnifying the issue of an ageing and under performing squad.
If the squad and coaching staff fundamentally stay the same and performances do not improve then the pressure ramps up on GH as the attendance figures decline and he will not accept that.
The question is when as opposed to if these actions will be taken.
A sound defeat to HKR could be the catalyst but I don't think any of us should be wishing for that outcome. We should support the players that wear the shirt, stay to the end and not boo. If you feel that you can't do these things then don't turn up. GH will take notice of that far more than booing.
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| The pressure should well and truly be on GH now. If I was an investor in them, I would well and truly be thinking about a no confidence vote right now.
It's not just the Rhinos, but the Tykes as well. He was to blame for that issue also. Which again came down to poor recruitment as a major issue, followed by no action on the coaching front.
I suspect that GH had no intention of changing this side for 2012 even, otherwise I think with all the negativety from the fans he would have been announcing new recruits for next year by now.
What you will find is that things will have changed slightly, and expect a coupld of hastily made desperation signings to be announced as soon as they get it resolved.
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| Think you are right, however, this will only serve to put further pressure on GH. New signings have not been announced but neither have new contracts for the players that we believe should be released.
The changes will come and we should be prepared for 2012 being another rebuilding year due to the lack of previous action.
GH also cannot afford to run the risk of recruiting similar players to Hauraki and Cross to repeat the same mistake would be unacceptable and there would be no one to blame other than him. Think he will make quality signings this year to reach us 2013 and will give the likes of Ambler, Amor, BJB (FB) Watkins (C) and Hardaker their chance in 2012.
Unfortunately, we may have to resign oursleves to more disappointment in 2012 and look to 2013. Hope I am wrong.
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