Oh dear Keith, you get worse.



He was an NRL regular certainly last season, no matter what you want to dredge up.

Strange timescale - he'd have struggled to play in the NRL whilst at Hull KR, Doncaster, Widnes, Whitehaven and Barrow.

Which emphasises the point - he's not very good, but has managed to get a gig at two of the big NRL clubs in the last couple of years, which suggests Luke Burgess could too.

I think in a salary capped sport such as ours any player has a chance of a move to the NRL. But then it will all come down to how much you want to play in the NRL. If Burgess was happy to go to the NRL on a very cheap contract then I would suspect he'd get snapped up purely because he would fit well into a roster. Maybe not always in the first team but more a back-up but given his chance he could then stake a claim

I F**king hat threads that have a title like this, its so F**king cheesy!!

Neither is Worrincy Matt, but he's somehow got himself a club!

In the absence of JP for the first half of the season we really will need Burgess to do what he does best. ie: take us over the gain line and put us on the front foot.

Neither Bailey or Kirke (as a possible prop) are noted for a good go forward game so we will need young Luke to have more game time this year.

Time for Kirke to stand up and drive his legs rather than falling in the tackle.

Time for Burgess to learn how to catch and sort his lateral movement out if he wants to play NRL.

Burgess struggled to find the advantage line last year. He was dealt with quite easily. In reality Luke ISN'T this huge metre maker that some people buy into.

I doubt his metre average were significantly better than TMFMISL/Kirke.

A Luke Burgess, on form, is a worthy member of the squad and with the injury situation (and for Luke's own personal career targets) - Luke needs a huge year. I hope he can produce.

Fortunately that's something measured during the Regular Rounds by Opta.

Looking at Leeds' props/used in that role (at some point) 2010:

Greg Eastwood - 7.58
Jamie Peacock - 7.48
Kylie Leuluai - 7.41
Kyle Amor - 7.32

Luke Burgess - 6.61
Ryan Bailey - 6.24
Ian Kirke - 6.09
Luke Ambler - 6.06

Make of those what you will.

Thought you may 'pop up' at this point.

On this occasion of that info you have supplied it backs up my point perfectly.

Cheers.

tvoc wrote:Fortunately that's something measured during the Regular Rounds by Opta.

Looking at Leeds' props/used in that role (at some point) 2010:

Greg Eastwood - 7.58
Jamie Peacock - 7.48
Kylie Leuluai - 7.41
Kyle Amor - 7.32

Luke Burgess - 6.61
Ryan Bailey - 6.24
Ian Kirke - 6.09
Luke Ambler - 6.06

Make of those what you will.






Well this is only taking the averages over last season alone and given that it was a poor season for Burgess and it was a good one for Bailey (I seem to remember you were flying a kite for your hero to be considered for international duty) your man was still down 6% in go forward.

However if you compare the performance for the seasons since Burgess came into the side (2007, 2008, 2009 & 2010) You get the following averages:

Luke Burgess 7.07
Ryan Bailey 6.42

Which is a whole 10% better in average metres per carry and Burgess is also 16% better than Bailey in metres made per game which means his go forward performance average is a "significantly better" than Bailey or Kirke

Which is the point I was making ie: for Burgess to do what he does best. We do need him to have a good season this year and also your man BB