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Quote: batleyrhino "I'd have thought that the one that floored BJ Mather was a more appropriate comparison. That was a one punch KO of the highest order, an a bloke much bigger than KS. Actually come to think of it, KS has a bit of a history of ting people...'"


Was this the one where Keith was behind a bunch of players when he hit BJM ? If it was, pretty sure Mather never saw it coming.

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Quote: gulfcoast_highwayman "In my memory, Mathers just went straight down too. Not falling backwards, just straight down, out cold. Absolute peach of a punch. I'm probably mis-remembering it.'"

That's how I remember it.
Bit like fielden did when mason slotted him. What I like about the fielden one is he got up ready to have a bit of handbags with mason and look hard and he just got slotted and went down!

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Senior - cleanest left hook witnessed. Mather was shooting from the lip and I'm afraid pretty much got what he deserved.

1998 Challenge Cup Quarter Final and the 1st time Sheffield Eagles had appeared on the BBC. I'd almost forgiven Andrew Schick by the full-time hooter/whistle. It may have been the Chinese year of the Tiger but it weren't to be Castlefords and no repeat of the last time they beat Leeds in the Challenge Cup by going on to lift the trophy as they had done in 1969.

Senior (IIRC) escaped punishment on the day (good old Bob Connolly) but copped a ban from the RFL just the same which kept him out of the semi final V Salford at Headingley. He was back for the momentus final V Wigan though for one of Wembley's biggest upsets.

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Quote: G1 "What if he crossed the road to reason with the chap (who on the basis of the evidence appears to have pursued the accused aggressively asking for a fight). Having gone across the road to do so it became apparent that he was about to be attacked and punched the gentleman in an act of self defence?

Remember that great video from the other year with the cage fighting cross dressers punching the young bother causing scrotes on the street? We all cheered that. It looked like natural justice. If the young scrote had, however, been killed by or as a result of that punch what would your view be? I remember the footage and the cross dressing cage fighter (love typing that definition) could have walked away from the aggressive little scrote but he turned back and walked towards him. It's just dumb luck that his punch didn't result in a death and the one in the present case did.

I fail to see why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist. Is it a tragic and sad tale, yes? Has justice been served, yes? It's a cautionary tale but I don't see the need to be baying for any more blood.'"


All fair points, especially the one about "dumb luck". You punch anyone then there is always the chance you can cause serious or even fatal injuries - or the ground can if they fall. My own personal feeling is that the law should encourage people to walk away from situations if possible just in case. If you walk towards someone who is looking for trouble and then punch them first then you should be aware that you have f***d up and any serious injuries you cause (bad luck or not) are partly your fault. It was a manslaughter charge, not a murder charge - so I guess even the law didn't see this is intent to kill.
I guess there are subtle differences in all cases.

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i remember talking to a guy who was fully trained up in karate,judo and practised kick boxing and he said the best form of self defence is to walk or run away

if my perrys group had done that then chances are nothing else would have happened but by trying to act macho he's ended up killing a guy

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Quote: southyorksdave "i remember talking to a guy who was fully trained up in karate,judo and practised kick boxing and he said the best form of self defence is to walk or run away

if my perrys group had done that then chances are nothing else would have happened but by trying to act macho he's ended up killing a guy'"


A tactical retreat is probably one of the best forms of self defence however this isnt usually an option when you mix males, beer and testosterone all together

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