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Obviously pure speculation etc. but thought I should post it anyway.

Quote: Leeds old boy and new Crusaders coach Iestyn Harris tells me he doesn’t think Danny McGuire will be fit until the summer, and reckons Brent Webb is going to be used as a make-shift standoff. ""Leeds old boy and new Crusaders coach Iestyn Harris tells me he doesn’t think Danny McGuire will be fit until the summer, and reckons Brent Webb is going to be used as a make-shift standoff."'"


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Obviously pure speculation etc. but thought I should post it anyway.

Quote: Leeds old boy and new Crusaders coach Iestyn Harris tells me he doesn’t think Danny McGuire will be fit until the summer, and reckons Brent Webb is going to be used as a make-shift standoff. ""Leeds old boy and new Crusaders coach Iestyn Harris tells me he doesn’t think Danny McGuire will be fit until the summer, and reckons Brent Webb is going to be used as a make-shift standoff."'"


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Quote: sgtwilko "so he will return the kicks and then get involved as our main pivot. will the player defending in webbs spot also be linking up in attack where webb would normaly fit in as an extra pivot out wide. not sure if that will work, will it be too much messing around, its not for a couple of weeks its for 4 or 5 months. the person fitting into the line to defened must be upto it and beable to attack. mcguires' defence has progressed to the point where he puts some real solid shots in and comes up with good defensive plays.'"


The stand off doesn't get involved in the first couple of plays after a kick return on most sets. They tend to be either dummy half runs from the outside backs or hit ups from the forwards. Webb can bring back the kicks then chip in on tackles four and five in the attacking play.

If it is BJB at full back, he runs good supporting lines and picks up offloads rather than playing as a pivot anyway - a completely different style of attacking full back to Webb and more of a direct replacement in that sense for McGuire.

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Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Agree with most of that.

Just the last line.

If you count Leuluai, Buderus, Peacock, JJB & Ablett as our "Forward Shoo-ins" that leaves;
Lauitiiti
Cross
Bailey
Kirke
Burgess
Clarkson
Pitts
McShane

That's 8 "First Team" player vying for the 4 bench spots. I can't see how an injured winger (and consequently Watkins/Bishop/Hardaker/Coady replacing said winger) would leave our bench short??'"

Yes agree with your comment re the bench. I was meaning more so if we had to play a back on the bench. But take your point that we have enough SR`s to fill in if needs be.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The stand off doesn't get involved in the first couple of plays after a kick return on most sets. They tend to be either dummy half runs from the outside backs or hit ups from the forwards. Webb can bring back the kicks then chip in on tackles four and five in the attacking play.

If it is BJB at full back, he runs good supporting lines and picks up offloads rather than playing as a pivot anyway - a completely different style of attacking full back to Webb and more of a direct replacement in that sense for McGuire.'"

Completely agree with this and i personally would prefer we lined up this way.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "The stand off doesn't get involved in the first couple of plays after a kick return on most sets. They tend to be either dummy half runs from the outside backs or hit ups from the forwards. Webb can bring back the kicks then chip in on tackles four and five in the attacking play.

If it is BJB at full back, he runs good supporting lines and picks up offloads rather than playing as a pivot anyway - a completely different style of attacking full back to Webb and more of a direct replacement in that sense for McGuire.'"


I agree. But more importantly for me is that Sinfield is one of our best defenders in that team, constantly making about mid 30 plus tackles per match. The only time he did not achieve that was when moved to half back, which you would expect from a half back. However, taking Sinfields defence away from the pack is a harder job to fill than a lot realise.

Which probably goes back to Remarkable Rhinos posts previously that there is a bigger change to the team as a whole putting Sinfield to stand off than putting Webb there.

It's been a success in the past like, but that is not a given that it will be going forward.

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Quote: Gotcha "I agree. But more importantly for me is that Sinfield is one of our best defenders in that team, constantly making about mid 30 plus tackles per match. The only time he did not achieve that was when moved to half back, which you would expect from a half back. However, taking Sinfields defence away from the pack is a harder job to fill than a lot realise.

Which probably goes back to Remarkable Rhinos posts previously that there is a bigger change to the team as a whole putting Sinfield to stand off than putting Webb there.

It's been a success in the past like, but that is not a given that it will be going forward.'"

Agreed. I think it is a part of his game that is overlooked sometimes. You go away remembering the big hits ie Kyles and one that sticks in my mind Bailey putting Moz on his .but sinny does get through a lot of defensive work and still performs in attack!

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