But Warrington have just won the CC for two years on the trot. Are players like, Riley, Vinny Anderson, Louis Anderson, Clarke, and Higham, really proven quality? would you really have had any of those in the Leeds team for example?

Only last year many posters on here were moaning about the potential of signing Atkins. He's just won a CC, therefore a medal to his name.

Arguably Scott Donald was "right place, right time". Would Leeds have been any less successful with Lee Smith on the right wing 2007-09 for example?

I think we would have been just fine with Smith but I also think Donald contributed towards Leeds success.


To be honest I don't think this is going anywhere, It's just the Ricky Bibey thing that's getting a bit boring for me know, He must be used as an example on every forum at least one a week.

Add to that Ian Kirke, who G1 has lambasted for most of the season. Infinitely better player than someone Sam Burgess. In the days of the salary cap the number of medals a player has is not a mark of their quality

Perhaps when Sinfield is ready to retire Leeds will revert to the more traditional scrum half role, 1st receiver, organiser, tactical kicker. The type of scrum half typified by a Michael Dobson type.