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Bluey was a bit cringe worthy there. McGuire cheated and got injured. These unfortunate things happen.

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Quote: DHM "It's more relevent than "cough, cough Keith Senior". Senior's disciplinary record is extremely good, your purile comment bears no relevence to his actual behaviour. Why did half the Wigan team charge at Kevin Sinfield after an innocuous challenge on Stuart Fielden? Not a high shot, not worthy of a rediculous over reaction.
If you are going to mention a player at least try and pick one with a poor record for giving away penalties. He's given away less than both your centres this year, even though he's made more tackles and carries. But maybe that's because Kevin Sinfield and the rest of the Leeds team are intimidating the ref all the time?'"


You weren't talking about players giving penalties away, you were talking about players needlessly charging in on any incident.

Quote: DHM "Hey, you are a point down with seconds remaining why wouldn't you waste those seconds trying to intimidate a player on the ground?

The speed with which the Wigan team hurtle towards any "incident" en masse suggests that they must actually practice this in training. It's the only explanation.'"


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Most unfortunate that Danny chose to pull back the slower moving Carmont. He had Carmont covered anyway and could have tackled him had he been passed the ball. The action of pulling back on Carmont's shirt caused McGuire to trip up as he tried to avoid Carmont's legs. So many injuries are caused when a player goes down unexpectedly.

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Quote: DHM "It's more relevent than "cough, cough Keith Senior". Senior's disciplinary record is extremely good, your purile comment bears no relevence to his actual behaviour. Why did half the Wigan team charge at Kevin Sinfield after an innocuous challenge on Stuart Fielden? Not a high shot, not worthy of a rediculous over reaction.
If you are going to mention a player at least try and pick one with a poor record for giving away penalties. He's given away less than both your centres this year, even though he's made more tackles and carries. But maybe that's because Kevin Sinfield and the rest of the Leeds team are intimidating the ref all the time?'"


I mentioned Keith Senior because it was in context to the point about crowding around the ref and it happenned in fridays game! Just because it isn't mentioned in SL stats doesn't mean it isn't one of the FACTS you seem to like so much !

I could start quoting that wigan have the best points difference in the SL this season - it doesn't mean that they are going to win every game though does it?

Keith was one of many players surrounding the ref when he called a pen for a high shot on Joel - he was also the only player who grabbed the referees arm. That seems quite relevant to your point about players ganging up around the ref doesn't it?

The last time I remember a player grabbing a refs arm he got a 5 match ban, in this case Keith didn't get anything, just a scared look from Alibert - he's a pretty lucky boy his 'stats' aren't much worse.

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Alot of coughing going on around here. I'm outta here before I catch something.

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Quote: Big Steve "Keith was one of many players surrounding the ref when he called a pen for a high shot on Joel - he was also the only player who grabbed the referees arm. That seems quite relevant to your point about players ganging up around the ref doesn't it?'"


If Senior had deliberately made contact with the referee the RFL would have been down on him like a ton of bricks and rightly so. Unlike you they were able to clearly see Senior was brushing away Sam Tomkins attempt to push him away. The slap that Alibert received was accidental as he was briefly caught in the midsts of the confrontation.

No worse than a moment later in the same incident when Alibert actually struck Lauitiiti on the side of the head when ushering players away.

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