We will never have a MOS in leeds colours it's not allowed if they could take our Grand finals off us they would, If and I know it's a big if we went on to take this years grand final none of the Sy commentators (Barry mac excepted) would accept we had been the best team this century. I'm not paranoid but that dosn't mean they are not out to us

England have just taken a punt on Gareth Widdop at fullback and I'm more than happy to see fresh talent given it's opportunity. So let's ditch Widdop at fullback in order to accommodate Sam Tomkins there instead, just so that one of your favourite Leeds Rhinos players can be accommodated at halfback, despite his wretched international performances over a lengthy period of time? That would make absolutely no sense to anyone blessed with a rational mindset.

Personally, I don't think McGuire was poor in the World Cup. As I recall he was the only attacking player who really troubled the Kiwis in the semi-final. It was Leon Pryce who went missing at stand-off in that competition. At the moment McGuire has to be in consideration. Let's just be grateful that we actually have some decisions to make in the halves for a change!

Indeed.

IMO Richards should get it but he wont. Like when Trent Barrett should have got it the other year but didnt, didnt roby get it instead?

Cunningham will get it with it being his last season and him never winning it.

I love how after only 3 or 4 games for England against decent opposition Tomkins is suddenly the best 6 we've had in decades. If I'm honest I don't think he's as good as Harris or McGuire at the same age. Tomkins has still got a lot to prove IMO and hasn't shown anything to justify automatic selection yet.

McGuire has had a number of good games for GB/England, he's had some poor ones too but so has everyone else who's played for GB/England for the last 40 years. He was outstanding in his first Tri Nations in 2004, and has been effective coming off the bench at scrum half aswell, and was one of the few players to show up in the 2008 world cup.

He was very poor last time out at the DW but, I don't see how you can right him off. He's approaching his peak FFS and he's been as good as any other HB in the SL this year.

Really Keith, you sure know your onions.
In the real world however Danny McGuire was one of the few who had an excellent World Cup. Even the Aussie Media (including Phil Gould) praised his performances.

That's who my money would be on.

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V PNG - played just 23 mins off the bench, did nothing of note.

V AUS - played 46 mins off the bench, did nothing of note apart from make 8 tackles, of which 2 were missed tackles, made 1 error and conceded 1 penalty for a spear tackle resulting in 2 points for Australia. Poor McGuire kick straight into the hands of Billy Slater in 63rd minute and Slater scores length of the field try.

V NZ (Group Stage) - did not play.

V NZ (Semi Final) - played 80 mins, scored 2 tries, but was largely at fault for the conceding of 4 tries. 18th minute, a McGuire turnstile attempt at a tackle in the lead up to Lance Hohaia burrowing over for a Kiwi try. 56th minute, McGuire knocks on, Bronson Harrison try for NZ from the resultant Kiwi next set of six. 68th minute, McGuire drops a Nathan Fien kick behind his own tryline, Gardner follows up McGuire's comedy routine in defence by failing to collect the ball and nutmegging himself, and Jerome Ropati touches down for NZ. 78th minute, Jerome Ropati outside loose pass flies into McGuire's hands and he fails to grasp the ball handing Benji Marshall a simple score in the corner. Game Over.

Keith, theres no point trying to debate with numpties like yourself. Your either a man of very limited intelligence or McGuire must of ran your cat over or stolen your girlfriend or something equally heinous.

This is my favourite... it is all McGuire fault that after a kick that Slater takes on the full he is then allowed to go full length of the field to score. What were the other 12 blokes on the field doing at the time and what lets them off the hook for the score?