at half time my lass felt a little unwell so we moved from the southstand to the western terrace as there was space for her to sit down so I was approx 5 yards from the try in question and hodgeson touched it but on the line. the lines man was about the same distance and waved for 20 meter restart the in goal touch was a good 20 yards away and with at least 2 players blocking his sight? I can only assume ben has more respect for the in goal officail than the linesman.

Of the pass, the ball from Smith to Hall looked slightly forward in flight from the one camera angle behind the play (as line balls tend to look) and yet the touch judge appears in perfect line to make the call and didn't appear in any doubt.

If we could see a view from in front of the play it would probably look OK, which is why forward passes are in most cases best left to the officials out on the pitch.

YOU are missing the point somewhat. The issue is not, for me anyway, that Ben ended up awarding the try as such, it is that he blatantly ignored the clear signal of the man best placed to rule on the try, the man that (arguably) in the rules he should concede to to make that call in the circumstances and decided to overrule him and make the call himself! He doesn't even discuss it with his touch judge, he (supposedly) knows it is a try and just asks in his goal judge, who signalled he agreed with Ben, exactly 'where' it was scored.

As for Danny's try the Smith pass was in directly in front of us and it did look slightly forward to me but ALL of the officials disagreed with my opinion and allowed play to continue. We all know that a forward pass is probably the hardest call to make and they get them wrong both ways and it is a very subjective ruling when you start to bring momentum into it... that is why they are trained and told to look at the hands rather than the flight of the ball.

I sit in the carnegie, and therefore in front of that play, but I have to admit for calling that it was a forward pass when it was made.

I think there were a fair few forward passes in the game for both sides that went unpunished. Although I thought the one in the first half to Hall looked fine, that was pulled for.

Well they do when you play

Coming from knowsley rd mk2 that's quality!