Yes I agree with Craigloiner. A smaller venue would be better.There is nothing more depressing than a televised game being played in an echoing stadium with row upon row upon row of empty seats. It does nothing for the image of the game.

Hasn't there been over 6 weeks between the quarters and semis? Leeds versus Saints got 20k plus last year in the 1st round. Throw in another game and I see no reason why the attendances at this year's magic event couldn't be beaten, easily - 26k for four games on the 1st day of this year's magic event.

This I can wholeheartedly agree with. One of RLs strengths is that it's innovative. One of it's weaknesses is that it ditches good concepts very early if they don't achieve overnight success.

possibly a longer gap than that
im not sure if your suggestion is to replace magic with a double header semi final or one of the rounds of the cup or a round of the playoffs?
but in any of those events the maximum ticket sale period is much less than the present system, an advantage that magic should keep in my opinion

Leeds vs saints got 20k because it was free, i know you know the levels of attendance a regularly priced cup game (a magic game would likely attach a further premium) will get becasue you made comment that the Leeds Wigan game attendance this year would be around 10k with a capacity restriction or not, cf the most recent league game
that massive dropoff is the issue you need to look at (cup or playoffs), there is another dropoff when you travel, effectively it is an away fixture for every fan
26k at Magic cf the four attendances for the same games in the league -> much smaller attendance due to distance travelled
take the cup games which already have low attendances and move them further away and its even worse, the challenge cup semis are unfortunately very likely to demonstrate this

Well we didn't go this year as there wasn't enough intrest from group we go to games with, previous year hadn't won us over, wasn't much around the ground, facilities inside the ground were tad akward and expensive (having to go outside to drinks & food etc)

Least with Cardiff if you wasn't fussed by a game you could leave the stadium and have a wander around the city very easily, that option wasn't really viable

Quarter finals idea

For
NL1 possibly NL2 teams involved so they get a little bit of the action

Against
Forward planning (is my team going to be there)
Cup attendances are not the highest

Playoff idea

For
Big teams, more intensity.

Against
What's the point in finishing high up if it's not rewarded with a home tie ?

HOPIE quote---"the RFL needs money and fans to attend these kind of events, the world cup in this country will only succeed if people attend, there is an unfortunate culture in Rugby league to look for an excuse not to attend, not attend games, and moan about low attendances
another is to say this event or that event has not "worked" becasue it it is not perfect straight away, if you dont persist and give up then it has failed
in what way has Magic not worked/failed?"

Totally agree with this comment,RFL isnt a cash rich sport and needs to generate income streams for sure.
However there will always be events that people wont like in principle(against their personal ethos of what a sport should do).
Some people dont like change in principle.Heck i have friends who still wont even attend feb/march/april SL matches since SL 'went to blooming summer' .
Many have a limit to how much RL they want overall too.
Comfort zones..many people dont like travelling to a match.They can get to wembley/cardiff as neutrals for CC but a similar distance to cardiff was out of the question for MM.Some are positively LUDDITE in rejecting something new.
But while RFL have in some ways percevered with this longer than some ideas its unfortunate that the positive spectator results still havent occured.Its ironic no one seems to have made sufficient prominence of the RFL's ineffective management of the schemes.We have had criticism since first in Cardiff about lack of visible promotion this was still evident in Edinburgh this year.HOW will these 'locals' experience the game?Wheres the learning curve of experience in that?You must work on encouraging fans to feel included in new ideas,such dumb adverts as 'wackyweekend' i feel singularily fail on that.cut price tickets is not the single factor.
Could any on this forum who went to the old premiership finals at OT recall how that multi match event went?was it full all the time or was there a tidal effect of fans match by match?Choose a Big or small stadium on experience i have had alot dont have the interest in more than their own fixture.A factor that does effect atmosphere.You could argue a ticket bought is the £££ end of it of course.
Of course OT was no where near full for the first GF and many felt it would never take off.

Although i wont agree on after 2 years experience is that Murrayfield is the place i would choose to sit for a day or two.And i cannt say the environs of it can compare with cardiff if you/wife/children want to wander out for a bit.
I suggested the CC as an alternative because this topic is brainstorming the subject and i accepted it wasnt a perfect solution .