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Quote: Exeter Rhino "Cast your mind back to 2004. Leeds topped SL by a record number of points (?10 I believe), yet Bradford convincingly beat us at home in the first play-off, and we only narrowly beat them in the GF.

I think this is a pertinent analogy to Wigan at present. Back then Leeds had been knocking around the top 4 for a few seasons but had never really made a serious dent in the play-offs (1998 aside). You are placing far too much onus on league performance as a guide to what happens in the play-offs. Based on 2004 SL season Leeds should have walked the play-offs but didn't - because they are a completely different competition.'"



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Odemwingie - Heres some advice. You keep going on about wigans attacking record. But that doesn't mean you'll be able to score points when it matters. In fact your first test this season of having to do that, you didn't score a try and went out of the CC. Take it from us, we know. Leeds were the best attacking team by far in 04, yet the grand final could have gone either way if you watch through the game again. In 05 we were the best attacking team and won f*ck all.

Just because you consistently attack well as a team and put points on the wakefields, celtics, salfords doesn't mean you have the players to score the points in a tight game.

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Quote: wertyuio "Agreed, I think I can only recall one away game in play offs.....September 2000...was at a ground called JJB, anyone remember it? I do remember we got battered at Odsal one year too....'"


Really? I remember winning at Saints not so long ago.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: G1 "Table topping in June, Odemwingie, counts for little. Sometimes table topping at the end of the season doesn't count for much more. Ask Saints fans.

I told you this a few pages back when your league lead looked much more unassailable tham it does today yet you continue to count those chickens.

Listen less to Phil Clarke and pay more attention to previous Super League seasons and you'll get a more balanced indicator.'"


You were talking about the last 10 mins of a game 'fooling me otherwise'

I am simply basing my opinion on the season so far.

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Quote: wertyuio "Agreed, I think I can only recall one away game in play offs.....September 2000...was at a ground called JJB, anyone remember it? I do remember we got battered at Odsal one year too....'"


Allow me: St Helens SL Play-Offs Away from Knowsley Road (excluding GF's)

09-Oct-98 ….. SL 3 - ESF ….. Halifax 30 ….. St Helens 37 ….. The New Shay
18-Oct-98 ….. SL 3 - FE ….. Leeds 44 ….. St Helens 16 ….. Headingley
26-Sep-99 ….. SL 4 - QSF ….. Bradford 40 ….. St Helens 4 ….. Odsal
29-Sep-00 ….. SL 5 - QSF ….. Wigan 16 ….. St Helens 54 ….. JJB
28-Sep-01 ….. SL 6 - ESF ….. Hull 20 ….. St Helens 24 ….. The Boulevard
06-Oct-01 ….. SL 6 - FE ….. Wigan 44 ….. St Helens 10 ….. JJB
03-Oct-03 ….. SL 8 - ESF ….. Wigan 40 ….. St Helens 24 ….. JJB
25-Sep-04 ….. SL 9 - EPO ….. Wigan 18 ….. St Helens 12 ….. JJB

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Wire_85 "He never makes any sense.

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To be fair I did explain that on your board.

Someone posted on here something about Leeds and Saints always playing well at play-off time over the last few years, this got me thinking and I really don't think wire could beat saints or leeds, especially if it was away.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: El Pac Carnegie "That's how it seems. People have replied and much like on some VT threads you come flying out in defence of Wigan. If you were genuinely looking for an answer (you have been given one), you would have just gone about your business. Instead you drop in and fire off another missive about Wigan been this, that and the other. Why you feel the need for other clubs to fawn over your own I don't know nor understand.

I personally see Saints as a bigger threat simply as they have done it in the playoffs like ourselves. Wigan are playing well and may well win the GF this year but I would fancy ourselves or Saints ahead of them purely because we have the recent history.'"


I wasn't coming in defence of Wigan just because I am a Wigan fan. I expect Leeds fans to see Saints as a bigger threat, and I probably agree in many ways, but if you look back at the start of the thread, I didn't agree with the REASONS.

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