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| Quote back to back to back="back to back to back"The thing is, history doesn't lie. Grand final winners generally come from the top 2.
While that has been the case the top 2 have generally been a class above the rest and had a record of regularly winning trophies and contesting finals. Wigan are leading the way at the moment but until they actually win something they aren't going to command the same fear for teams as Leeds and Saints in recent years.
In my opinion it's easier to get to the final from lower down with the top 8 system than the top 6. e.g. with a 6th place finish: a home tie to 7th, an away trip to a losing team and one very tough away game.
The Challenge Cup Final throws a bit of a swerveball to the finalists too.
A fit and in form team in September can really do some damage, look at Catalans last year.
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| Last night i would have said a point lost, but we were rubbish for the first half, and gradually got better, and from that far back a point was a good result. I agree that the top 8 format alows teams from outside the top 4 a greater chance of getting to the grand final than the old top 6 format.
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| there is a hell of a long way to go yet. we do need to get some consistency and soon, but a couple of wins and the confidence will return.
i still fancy us to finish in the top 5 although i think top 2 may be beyond us
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| Forget the 2 GF wins and the WCC the overall standard and level which Leeds have played since TS & BM departed has declined.
The bulk of the players Bluey inherited played under TS/BM and even with the addition of some quality signings the general standard is slowly declining IMO.
Yes you might say the sliverware speaks for its self but overall our performances over the last 2 years have been average with the odd exception and a few get out of jail performances.
Surely Bluey should have one of the easiest jobs in SL coaching lads that have played together season after season man and boy along side overseas stars in front of the best supporters in the rugby world at Headingley so how come our performances are declining unchecked.
Bluey talks a good fight and yes the other teams are stronger but looking round our team on paper we can't lose.....that is until they actually have too play then they look lost,lack direction and confused why?
35 years watching Leeds through good times and alot of bad yes we've had a great last 6 years but am i the only one that thinks our performances are poorer or average at best compared to 2004/2007?
Leeds for life but i'm no fan of Bluey.
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| oh goody, another alias.
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| Quote G1="G1"Because the most experienced, highly paid player in the team is not smart enough to understand he was a dummy runner/blocker and failed to pass it behind Kylie to Sinfield.
Still, the Leeds fans love his accent.'"
As did you last season when describing him as "clearly better than Diskin" and "the best hooker in the league,possibly the world"
What has happened to change your view? After all those comments were made last July after he broke his leg playing for us, and he did not play again until this season. Therefore in your view he has gone from been the best hooker in the world to a player you single out nearly every week for criticism after only a handful of games.
I would agree he is not at his best but he his returning from a broken leg. If he remains injury free for the rest of the season and has not rediscovered the form that led you to believe he was the best No 9 in the world then that would be a fairer time to have a go IMO.
You have had a pop at other posters in the past who have critcised players one week only to be singing their praises a few weeks later. People in glass houses...............
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| Quote The Magic Rat="The Magic Rat"As did you last season when describing him as "clearly better than Diskin" and "the best hooker in the league,possibly the world"
What has happened to change your view? After all those comments were made last July after he broke his leg playing for us, and he did not play again until this season. Therefore in your view he has gone from been the best hooker in the world to a player you single out nearly every week for criticism after only a handful of games.
I would agree he is not at his best but he his returning from a broken leg. If he remains injury free for the rest of the season and has not rediscovered the form that led you to believe he was the best No 9 in the world then that would be a fairer time to have a go IMO.
You have had a pop at other posters in the past who have critcised players one week only to be singing their praises a few weeks later. People in glass houses...............'"
I give praise and criticism in equal measure to players based upon performance and regardless of any favouritism. I critiqued a stupid decision that Buderus made late in the game that cost us the opportunity for a win. What does any of the above have to do with that? Should I [inot[/i criticise Buderus because he is a great player? Maybe I am so critical because of the player he is and because he has been so underwhelming.
He clearly is a great player. He clearly hasn't shown that greatness at Leeds.
It annoys me that so many on here are willing to leap to his defence (do you really think a broken leg last July is an excuse for the decision to pass to Kylie) yet not an inch of leeway is given to Diskin who without a doubt has earned it (he was called a Carthorse today without explanation).
Oh, and rather than selectively quoting certain phrases from a post I made some time ago could you link to the actual post to give what I said it's proper context.
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| Quote G1="G1"I give praise and criticism in equal measure to players based upon performance and regardless of any favouritism. I critiqued a stupid decision that Buderus made late in the game that cost us the opportunity for a win. What does any of the above have to do with that? Should I [inot[/i criticise Buderus because he is a great player? Maybe I am so critical because of the player he is and because he has been so underwhelming.
He clearly is a great player. He clearly hasn't shown that greatness at Leeds.
It annoys me that so many on here are willing to leap to his defence (do you really think a broken leg last July is an excuse for the decision to pass to Kylie) yet not an inch of leeway is given to Diskin who without a doubt has earned it (he was called a Carthorse today without explanation).
Oh, and rather than selectively quoting certain phrases from a post I made some time ago could you link to the actual post to give what I said it's proper context.'"
I was not refering to the pass to Kylie in particular, but you have criticised his performance most weeks.
He has not shown that greatness at Leeds as much as we would have liked, but that has been down to injury.He was showing that form, by your own admission, at the time he broke his leg.It can take players time to get all their confidence back after such an injury and it is still relatively early in the season.
I agree the stick Diskin sometimes receives is also OTT.
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| Quote The Magic Rat="The Magic Rat"I was not refering to the pass to Kylie in particular, but you have criticised his performance most weeks.
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Because most weeks I do not think he has been any great shakes, this season. If he plays well next week I shall praise him.
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| Quote G1="G1"Because most weeks I do not think he has been any great shakes, this season. If he plays well next week I shall praise him.'"
I don't think he has ripped teams apart at the ruck like I though he would, we have seen glimpses though.
His defence on the otherhand is top class, and really brings intensity to the defensive line when he's on.
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