I do too

Had this discussion with another poster on here recently - how much time is put into teaching kids how to grip the ball correctly? You see a lot of young players in particular in SL carrying the ball into the tackle very loosely, almost in one hand at times.

best centre in the league still and im no Leeds fan. Shenton in my eyes isnt fit to lace his boots, bit overhyped in my view.

Nowhere near enough. There is nowhere near enough time spent teaching kids the skills of the game (passing & handling especially) anyway, nevermind the grip of the ball. Half the time kids are using a ball that is too big for them anyway and its just far easier for coaches to teach kids to pass it to the big kid instead of teaching them passing and handling week-in week-out.

I'd agree he is a bit overhyped but thats not really his fault. Any English centre who is solid gets hyped up as the next Greg Inglis and has an enormous amount of pressure put on them. The same thing happened to Atkins.

Nobody would be silly enough to compare him to Inglis I think he showed how good he is though when him & Ellis pretty much shut down the left hand side of England's defence, and if given the ball in space not many people will catch him because he is very fast, as Leeds found out at the Jungle the other year, he's a very good centre (certainly better then Atkins anyway).