Yes to both.

In fact, when playing well, Saints play the most attractive rugby in the league (except maybe catalans), but their fans are painful to listen to.

What happened on Friday night was the two best teams in the league kicked the living jesus out of each other and it was a fairly close game...good stuff. The result can go both ways and i reckon leeds deserved the win, and the league leaders. I'd be wary of Saints later on in the play offs if they're still there.

If Saints lot are questioning integrity, they should look inwards.

Would this be a suitable time to mention the salary cap???

Nice to see Kieron straight after the game saying how much he enjoyed the game and that he didnt think either team deserved to lose, but Leeds did enough to justify winning the game.

No dummy spit. No blubbing over tackles. No whinging about the ref.

Saints gave just about as good as they got and bar a few flashes of nastiness that game was a cracking advert for our game and one i enjoyed.

No – there is a definite difference between on field cheating and off field cheating.

Off field cheating can be passed of as 'an administrational error'.

Except for betting anomalies of course ?

Obviously – but know one would be THAT stupid now would they?

No, maybe not.

Maybe they'd register under a different name so it couldn't be linked to them.

No wait, the bank account details would link back to them wouldn't they ?

Yeah you're right, no rugby league player would be THAT stupid.

That could be the write up for Dumb and Dumber!!

Redvee is REALLY funny.

They are incredibly dumb.

redvee is a great forum run by great lads. got off their backs. if we behaved in such a manner i can guarantee there would be such melee.

Any chance of having that in something resembling English?