Quote: BrisbaneRhino "tvoc - one word - desperation. I hope he does well actually, as it will surprise a lot of people here. My only issue is the overreaction to Barrett at Wigan (as per Lyon at Sts). Very good players? Yes. All time greats? No way.'"
One was a Man of Steel and the other was shamefully denied the award due to his not playing for St Helens.
They were short term 'greats' in the British comp albeit only briefly.