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Quote: tad rhino "an old guy in the seat right behind me had a heart attack today after about 5 minutes of the game. we straight away told a steward we needed a paramedic. i am a first aider and sat near me was a nurse. we told the steward to call an ambulance.

she called the st johns who took 8 minutes to arrive and immediately said"why wasn't an ambulance called?".

it then took 13 minutes for the paramedics to arrive by which time the man could have been dead.
we, although we we didn't mind, sat on the steps for the whole of the first half.

surely medical facilities should be on site when so many people were there, the young lass who was a steward was clueless and nobody else, fans apart seemed interested.

the guy seemed to be ok as he left.next time he may not be as lucky'"


I sit 5 seats away from the gentleman in question and if it hadnt have been for the two ladies who sit next to him i dont know what would have happened. It was scandolous how long it took any medical staff to arrive. I honestly thought he was dead. The stewards all just stood around looking at each other and when the st johns turned up it seemed to be ages before the actual paramedics turned up. Fortunately the gentleman seemed to be coherent when they eventually got him onto a stretcher chair to get him downstairs. I have to confess it didnt look good at one point and the stewards seemed to have no idea what to do. Surely they must have to have some sort of first aid training?

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I hope the individual is ok.

From the sounds of the OP if it really is true that an ambulance was not on premises then this is not allowed. It is in the Green guide that any event expecting more than 5000 an ambulance and paramedics should be in situe. Although bizarrely if an ambulance is required then another is called for the emergency, the one in situe is not used.

Also as for the St John's it is the way it goes at most grounds that the on site first aiders respond not the paramedics or doctor. We have doctors for the players and in the first aid room along with defibs. We also try to get anyone first aid within 5 minutes but this can sometimes take longer. and due to the uncertainty I make sure I get the nearest first aider rather than go through the protocol.

As for the stewards at ours they are given first aid training every year although this is basic and the advice given in any situation if you don't feel comfortable get someone else. But if you are then don't go beyond your limits and just make the person as comfortable as possible till help arrives and also reassure them.

I don't know what the headingly set up is as I've only ever been as an away supporter. But you have stewards that also work at Elland road as I used to work there and I knew quite a few when i visited on sunday and I certainly know that they are given first aid training! So I can only guess that the steward that dealt with this situation wasn't very experienced!

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