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| Quote: tvoc "Only time will tell if the squad assembled is up to defending their SL title.
If they have such faith in the youth set up why did they see the need to target Pritchard, Eastwood and Soliola in the off season?
What isn't in question is that the squad assembled has already failed to defend their WCC title, went out of the Challenge Cup at the first hurdle at home, lost at home to Salford for the first time in 32 years and lost away at Odsal becoming the only Bradford opponent to do so in 2009 in the process.'"
After reading all the posts on this subject. It seems to me that tvoc is the only one writing perceptive, sensible opinions, in marked contrast to the Hetherington cheer leaders who are ably led by G1. |
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "The performances week in, week out where in excess of twenty penalties/handling errors are the norm.
'" yes, but he was insinuating being a cheerleader for GH was something negative. It would be hard to argue that his stewardship of the club has been anything but an unmitigated success.
Quote: tvoc "How many of the 32 Leeds games in 2007 did Toopi miss? Gibson missed 22 if that helps any and you are quite correct, I see no point in retaining Ashley Gibson once his contract expires this season.'" You tell me, I am sure you know ![]()
Quote: tvoc "Which players are these? Where is the evidence that Leeds have faith in them so far in 2009? This time last season (Round 13) Leeds were missing Toopi, Smith, Jones-Buchanan, Ellis, Lauitiiti, Bailey and Kirke. On Friday Leeds had arguably their first choice squad available + Bailey. It would be interesting to see what sort of team Leeds could put out with a random seven players missing as there were this time last season. '" Well, this time last year Leeds did have to rely on their youth system and they went fine. They also relied upon it very heavily when the test match was on and we didn't drop any comp points.
Quote: tvoc "Why choose ten years when you could have chosen eleven? If you'd have gone for twelve you'd have also found the last time Leeds failed to reach the 5th round. Why aren't Leeds successful in the Challenge Cup anyway? '" Because they fail to win the required number of games to be awarded the trophy.
Quote: tvoc "This squad have so far failed to make any welcome history so far this season and without something changes the chances (like the weather on Friday) are not looking that bright.'" The chances didn't look that bright for periods of 2007 and 2008 either.
Quote: tvoc "The same squad minus Ellis, Scruton, Toopi and Tansey (of which Toopi, Ellis and Scruton played a role in the GF/'s) '" 4 players, 1 of whom played in no GF's, 2 of whom played in 1.
Quote: tvoc "With the welcome addition of Buderus but that makes Diskin's role in the team confusing to say the least. '" To whom? He looks like our interchange hooker to me. The player the club have been searching for for a number of years.
Quote: tvoc "Let's hope they all stay fit this year.'" As always. As every club will be hoping for their own players.'"]
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| Quote: Craigloiner "heard westerman is on his way to us.'"
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| Quote: Dead Man Walking "As if. ![]()
A bit unwise for a professional sportsman to say he hates a club..
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| Quote: G1 "You tell me, I am sure you know ![]()
If you insist. Clinton Toopi played in all 32 games Leeds played in 2007. He didn't miss any through injury and even when relegated to the bench in favour of Gibson at right centre for three games he found some real form playing interchange back row forward before Ashley unfortunately picked up the knee injury that has (for me) forever altered his future prospects at the club.
Quote: G1 "Why August 2006 to Feb 2008?'"
Why not? August 2006 is the point he replaced Chev Walker in the team and Feb 2008 was the point he did his shoulder V Melbourne in the WCC. Inbetween he was a virtual ever present in the side (93%) playing the large proportion (85%) of those games at right centre. Whether he was actually a right centre or not that was his role given to him by Leeds and it's a role he cemented for himself post Chevrolet.
Quote: G1 "Well, this time last year Leeds did have to rely on their youth system and they went fine. They also relied upon it very heavily when the test match was on and we didn't drop any comp points.'"
In addition to youth (Watkins, Worrall(?) Burgess(?)) they also had a bigger first team squad than they currently have available and had brought in Eric Anselme on loan. If the same problems occurred this season we might finally see these squad players such as Ambler and Manning (and insert your own suggestions here) that are currently ripping it up in the reserves.
Quote: G1 " Because they fail to win the required number of games to be awarded the trophy.'"
They didn't eleven seasons ago just missing your criteria. Shame about that. A club Leeds' size really have underperformed here in a competition they have a very decent history in even in the Caddick/Hetherington era. Why is that when according to some [i'It would be hard to argue that his stewardship of the club has been anything but an unmitigated success.'[/i
Quote: G1 "To whom? He looks like our interchange hooker to me. The player the club have been searching for for a number of years.'"
Diskin doesn't look much like an interchange hooker. He looks like just another hooker where the team performance drops off when he appears from the bench. I'd have liked the interchange bit to equal impact with bursts from dummy half against a tiring defence. You don't get that from Diskin much.
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I agree with tvoc about the Diskin issue completely. Buderus looks the classic 80 minute hooker to me, and there's no doubt we've been poorer when he's gone off in the last few weeks. This isn't a criticism of Disko, who IMO has been one of our most consistent players over the years. But I am starting to think an extra big forward on the bench rather than an interchange hooker may be the way forward.
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