The cheques in the post honestly, thought only Ted used that excuse

The same one the inland revenue use

[url=http://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=externalDocuments&keyVal=LDVS9ZQQ06X00Detailed plans and documentation now online[/url.

It looks great but did throw up one or two surprises!

Initial observations that someone might wish to put to the club or make via supporting comments.

I think the home disabled fans who wish to be in the East Stand are getting are bum deal. They have positioned the two disabled viewing areas right at the stand ends on the try lines. I think having them next to the two vomitories around the 20m lines, to still retain easy access (on the side towards the centre line), is a better location as they get a better view and also are part of the crowd as opposed to being slightly remote from it. On lower attendance fixtures like Catalan or London then they are going to be totally left out on a limb. Conversely away and home disabled supporters get a great deal in the centre of the North and South stands, which is very good. The main West Stand disabled viewing area are towards the ends of the stand as well, but I think layout does probably does dictate this in this stand.

Do you guys have a disabled supporter association and if so can someone pass on my comments please?

I am surprised that they have gone for an all seater 'away' North Stand just in cost terms, but this might have something to do with the concert use format that is being proposed?

I am also surprised that they seem to have done away with hospitality boxes altogether (with the exception of the TV studio on non-televised games), while I do think the banqueting model and VIP seats is a better modern option I thought that maybe 4 to 6 hospitality boxes would have been a good shout?

I will have a more detailed look later but just some quick initial thoughts for now.

Very exciting! Even my Loiner colleague is impressed!

Trying to print them seems to be a nightmare though....

They are all probably A1 size, so if you want some full size copies, try these guys at Normanton - [urlhttp://www.easy2plot.co.uk/[/url They charge £1.75 + VAT for an A1.

The design & access statement document is the best all round document to print at home on A4. It gives you all the salient points and smaller plans and elevations.

Managed to export the pdf to a jpeg and get an A4 print. It'll do for me for now! I'll print the design and access statement too. Thanks for the advice IA!

Have to agree about the disabled seating in the 'home' stand, it really needs an area more on the halfway line. I used to assist a guy in a wheelchair who had season tickets for Palace and Wimbledon at Selhurst Park and we were stuck behind the 'home' goal, but the view was cracking. No seating for assistants though, so at least we'll have that!

I believe this is to do with the concert format and also in consideration of the fact that our own fans are forced to purchase a seating ticket at most away grounds these days, and the club intend to do the same for fans visiting ours. Fairs fair I suppose, home advantages and all that...


Given that there are only a few boxes now that aren't always used, I think the club are moving more down the banqueting and Club 50 route; in addition to increasing bar and catering facilities, which is a serious limitation in the current location.

I suspect there may be a cost consideration too since not introducing boxes has avoided the need to fit out the upper floor of the East Stand, simply leaving it as lettable space, which is potentially a greater earner for the club.

The banqueting suite is a much better option and boxes are fast becoming a thing of the past, much better utilisation of space. Love the design!

And it's better than the Leeds approach of forcing away fans into the Western Terrace

Now that is a low blow and just as I was about to praise you an Bonzo for your positive attitudes, what with you already thinking about train-timetables!



The good news is that do get a great view of our new permanent video screen and scoreboard... while still getting rained on!

I have also just seen that I am as popular as ever on the Cas Forum... god bless em! I blame your tb, I didn't even know the place existed till one of your posts told me so! I can't help myself, it is like a car accident!