FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Castleford Tigers > Chase charged...
115 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, pyeman , Hughies sister
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach285No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2016May 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Edited. post did not go through.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9986No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13747_1541715311.jpg
[b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg



Quote: mdean "I think like most people I have no real objection to 2 match bans for punching in retalliation, that seems perfectly logical to me that players do not make their own justice on the field.

I wasn't at the hearing either, so it is not clear what eveidence and arguments were put forward - for instance if the offence was then aggrevated by abusing the referee or match comissioner after the game, then that too could well have a bearing and should.

Again, no objection to any of the above. I think the appeal will be based on the fact that without any additional circumstances, that it is not in keeping with the sanctions of similar events. As someone who has spent a lot of time in various capacities around the sport and someone who, I am not ashamed to admit detests punch ups, I would like to see harsh sanctions, becuase the game is hard enough, tough and played by tough people without allowing punching and brawls..........

BUT - it has to be consistently applied and in this case looking at other recent offences, it has not been. If I was Castleford, I might be tempted to contact the RFL and instead of allowing Rangi to play this week pending appeal, we ask them to allow us to "suspend" Rangi this week pending appeal, showing our intentions we do not condone the activity but contest the sanction.

That way if the ban is reduced to 1 game, he will have served it.

Happy to be told I am wrong, a clown and biased, but my view is equal to those already shared!'"



If you appeal though, it will be heard this week won't it. So he will know before the weekend's game. Personally I think it will be reduced to 1 match on appeal, and that would be fair enough.
But it won't appease everyone, especially the ones who think that punching is fine and just part of the game.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach734No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18832.jpg
:18832.jpg



Quote: debaser "But it won't appease everyone, especially the ones who think that punching is fine and just part of the game.'"


No, I agree it won't.... I can't see the link between fighting and playing rugby league to be honest but some people seem to think it is part and parcel.
What's part and parcel is the physical collision and confrontation and people get hurt, but if I wanted to see a fight I would watch MMA or boxing.

Back on topic, I don't think the appeal would be heard before this weeks game, so I think Rangi would be allowed to play pending appeal. I actually think our seeking agreement to electively suspend Rangi this week would be seen as positive; we would be accepting that the offence occured and issuing a sanction, the appeal is the severity of the sanction. I think it is important we are not being seen (which we are not) to condone the action or get Rangi off, an offense was committed and sanction is mandatory.

RankPostsTeam
International Star47No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2012Nov 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



appeal hearing at 4pm. check official site for verdict

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5035No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2021Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44747_1304271884.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44747.png



www.anchorfan.com/blog/disciplin ... -the-chase

Good article and the RFL's reasoning is complete and utter bull icon_eek.gif
www.anchorfan.com/blog/disciplin ... -the-chase

Good article and the RFL's reasoning is complete and utter bull icon_eek.gif


RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1958
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
940.jpg
[b:2685cpta]Josh 1994-2003(a loving son & my best mate)[/b:2685cpta] AYE SALESMAN OF THE YEAR 2001-2012 For top quality printing try //www.bpsprint.co.uk //www.ayberspace.co.uk:940.jpg



Quote: debaser "If you appeal though, it will be heard this week won't it. So he will know before the weekend's game. Personally I think it will be reduced to 1 match on appeal, and that would be fair enough.
But it won't appease everyone, especially the ones who think that punching is fine and just part of the game.'"


No-one is saying that in an aggressive game such as Rugby League punching is fine but it is going to happen especially when the guy that tackles you shoves his elbow in your face ,what do you expect them to do suddenly switch off the adreneline ,it doesnt happen.If Rangi had come running in then Yes he deserves a 2 match ban ( but others havent as mentioned ealier Coley only got a one match ban for running in and punching) that is imho a premeditated move on his part however i question whether sundays incident wasn't just a reaction to the elbow.
The appeal is this afternoon at 4pm icon_razz.gifRAY:

Delboy66(Aye of the tigers fanzine) icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4538.jpg
[url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php][img]//img405.imageshack.us/img405/1116/roar1xz5.gif[/img][/url] [url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php]The Aye Of The Tigers Fanzine[/url]:4538.jpg



The RFL are a joke, Im still fuming about this, no consistancy at all

RankPostsTeam
International Star177No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



dont know what all the fuss is about . let rangi have a rest before the run in . This weekends game would be an ideal opportunity to blood another youngster (brierley) and show that cas are not a 1 man team.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member5223No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2017Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I suspect tttiger the concern is more around him missing the cup QF than the trip to Crusaders.

And Brierley won't play regardless. It'll either be Mathers back and McGoldrick replacing Chase or Dean Widders will move to stand off.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach734No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2023Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18832.jpg
:18832.jpg



Quote: SLtiger1 "appeal hearing at 4pm. check official site for verdict'"


Somewhat off topic, but I think we have done the debate to death until the verdict:
It should be like the old days where we could hastily arrange a friendly mid-week next week against Glasshoughton first school or something and let Rangi serve the second match of his suspension then. Or loan him to whatever championship club play next Thursday so he is still back for the CC quarter!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach285No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2016May 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: mdean "I think like most people I have no real objection to 2 match bans for punching in retalliation, that seems perfectly logical to me that players do not make their own justice on the field.

I wasn't at the hearing either, so it is not clear what eveidence and arguments were put forward - for instance if the offence was then aggrevated by abusing the referee or match comissioner after the game, then that too could well have a bearing and should.

Again, no objection to any of the above. I think the appeal will be based on the fact that without any additional circumstances, that it is not in keeping with the sanctions of similar events. As someone who has spent a lot of time in various capacities around the sport and someone who, I am not ashamed to admit detests punch ups, I would like to see harsh sanctions, becuase the game is hard enough, tough and played by tough people without allowing punching and brawls..........

BUT - it has to be consistently applied and in this case looking at other recent offences, it has not been. If I was Castleford, I might be tempted to contact the RFL and instead of allowing Rangi to play this week pending appeal, we ask them to allow us to "suspend" Rangi this week pending appeal, showing our intentions we do not condone the activity but contest the sanction.

That way if the ban is reduced to 1 game, he will have served it.

Happy to be told I am wrong, a clown and biased, but my view is equal to those already shared!'"


Good post there MD. I have just seen the incident again and Chase throws two punches in reaction to being hit whilst on the floor. Even allowing for the retaliatory circumstances, if the RFL were doing their job properly, fairly and even handedly, you could accept 2 matches in the name of trying to clean the game up.

However they are not applying even handedness and anything like consistency and in comparison with many other offences this season it is in fact very harsh. There have been quite a few cases that have been worse and either got just one match or let off completely. Furthermore many of these did not even have mitigating / retaliatory circumstances as an excuse. If some of these had got say, 4 matches then you could have accepted the 2 matches.

This is just one reason why so many fans within the game have such a poor opinion of the RFL and get their backs up with them. And that low opinion is unfortunately not just confined to the corridors of our sport itself, it is an opinion that proliferates within the sporting world in general. They just change the laws and punishments to suit whoever it affects, with a bloody minded attitude.

They so blatantly operate the one law for one and one law for another stance, without as much blinking an eyelid.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member5223No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2017Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Good to have Zimmerman back!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach58No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2012Apr 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Where can i see the incident? can people keep this post updated on the outcome as im at work icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach31No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2011Oct 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40702_1309987258.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40702.jpg



how can they even say there trying to clean the game up when they lets game go without doing anything

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5035No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2021Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44747_1304271884.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44747.png



A nice rest for the Crusaders game then

poskittc Cposkitt
1 game!!!

icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

115 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, pyeman , Hughies sister
115 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, pyeman , Hughies sister



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.86083984375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
27m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
1m
New Players
BigTime
137
3m
Film game
karetaker
5639
3m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
4m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
4m
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
4m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
4m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
482
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1275
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1397
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,695 ↑580,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Hull KR 25 669 311 358 38
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Salford 25 492 479 13 30
Leigh 25 548 362 186 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 25 439 415 24 26
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 25 411 661 -250 15
LondonB 25 309 850 -541 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
27m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
1m
New Players
BigTime
137
3m
Film game
karetaker
5639
3m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
4m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
4m
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
4m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
4m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
482
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1275
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1397
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!