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| Quote: mdean "I think like most people I have no real objection to 2 match bans for punching in retalliation, that seems perfectly logical to me that players do not make their own justice on the field.
I wasn't at the hearing either, so it is not clear what eveidence and arguments were put forward - for instance if the offence was then aggrevated by abusing the referee or match comissioner after the game, then that too could well have a bearing and should.
Again, no objection to any of the above. I think the appeal will be based on the fact that without any additional circumstances, that it is not in keeping with the sanctions of similar events. As someone who has spent a lot of time in various capacities around the sport and someone who, I am not ashamed to admit detests punch ups, I would like to see harsh sanctions, becuase the game is hard enough, tough and played by tough people without allowing punching and brawls..........
BUT - it has to be consistently applied and in this case looking at other recent offences, it has not been. If I was Castleford, I might be tempted to contact the RFL and instead of allowing Rangi to play this week pending appeal, we ask them to allow us to "suspend" Rangi this week pending appeal, showing our intentions we do not condone the activity but contest the sanction.
That way if the ban is reduced to 1 game, he will have served it.
Happy to be told I am wrong, a clown and biased, but my view is equal to those already shared!'"
If you appeal though, it will be heard this week won't it. So he will know before the weekend's game. Personally I think it will be reduced to 1 match on appeal, and that would be fair enough.
But it won't appease everyone, especially the ones who think that punching is fine and just part of the game.
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| Quote: debaser "But it won't appease everyone, especially the ones who think that punching is fine and just part of the game.'"
No, I agree it won't.... I can't see the link between fighting and playing rugby league to be honest but some people seem to think it is part and parcel.
What's part and parcel is the physical collision and confrontation and people get hurt, but if I wanted to see a fight I would watch MMA or boxing.
Back on topic, I don't think the appeal would be heard before this weeks game, so I think Rangi would be allowed to play pending appeal. I actually think our seeking agreement to electively suspend Rangi this week would be seen as positive; we would be accepting that the offence occured and issuing a sanction, the appeal is the severity of the sanction. I think it is important we are not being seen (which we are not) to condone the action or get Rangi off, an offense was committed and sanction is mandatory.
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| appeal hearing at 4pm. check official site for verdict
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| Quote: debaser "If you appeal though, it will be heard this week won't it. So he will know before the weekend's game. Personally I think it will be reduced to 1 match on appeal, and that would be fair enough.
But it won't appease everyone, especially the ones who think that punching is fine and just part of the game.'"
No-one is saying that in an aggressive game such as Rugby League punching is fine but it is going to happen especially when the guy that tackles you shoves his elbow in your face ,what do you expect them to do suddenly switch off the adreneline ,it doesnt happen.If Rangi had come running in then Yes he deserves a 2 match ban ( but others havent as mentioned ealier Coley only got a one match ban for running in and punching) that is imho a premeditated move on his part however i question whether sundays incident wasn't just a reaction to the elbow.
The appeal is this afternoon at 4pm
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| The RFL are a joke, Im still fuming about this, no consistancy at all
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| dont know what all the fuss is about . let rangi have a rest before the run in . This weekends game would be an ideal opportunity to blood another youngster (brierley) and show that cas are not a 1 man team.
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| I suspect tttiger the concern is more around him missing the cup QF than the trip to Crusaders.
And Brierley won't play regardless. It'll either be Mathers back and McGoldrick replacing Chase or Dean Widders will move to stand off.
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| Quote: SLtiger1 "appeal hearing at 4pm. check official site for verdict'"
Somewhat off topic, but I think we have done the debate to death until the verdict:
It should be like the old days where we could hastily arrange a friendly mid-week next week against Glasshoughton first school or something and let Rangi serve the second match of his suspension then. Or loan him to whatever championship club play next Thursday so he is still back for the CC quarter!
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| Quote: mdean "I think like most people I have no real objection to 2 match bans for punching in retalliation, that seems perfectly logical to me that players do not make their own justice on the field.
I wasn't at the hearing either, so it is not clear what eveidence and arguments were put forward - for instance if the offence was then aggrevated by abusing the referee or match comissioner after the game, then that too could well have a bearing and should.
Again, no objection to any of the above. I think the appeal will be based on the fact that without any additional circumstances, that it is not in keeping with the sanctions of similar events. As someone who has spent a lot of time in various capacities around the sport and someone who, I am not ashamed to admit detests punch ups, I would like to see harsh sanctions, becuase the game is hard enough, tough and played by tough people without allowing punching and brawls..........
BUT - it has to be consistently applied and in this case looking at other recent offences, it has not been. If I was Castleford, I might be tempted to contact the RFL and instead of allowing Rangi to play this week pending appeal, we ask them to allow us to "suspend" Rangi this week pending appeal, showing our intentions we do not condone the activity but contest the sanction.
That way if the ban is reduced to 1 game, he will have served it.
Happy to be told I am wrong, a clown and biased, but my view is equal to those already shared!'"
Good post there MD. I have just seen the incident again and Chase throws two punches in reaction to being hit whilst on the floor. Even allowing for the retaliatory circumstances, if the RFL were doing their job properly, fairly and even handedly, you could accept 2 matches in the name of trying to clean the game up.
However they are not applying even handedness and anything like consistency and in comparison with many other offences this season it is in fact very harsh. There have been quite a few cases that have been worse and either got just one match or let off completely. Furthermore many of these did not even have mitigating / retaliatory circumstances as an excuse. If some of these had got say, 4 matches then you could have accepted the 2 matches.
This is just one reason why so many fans within the game have such a poor opinion of the RFL and get their backs up with them. And that low opinion is unfortunately not just confined to the corridors of our sport itself, it is an opinion that proliferates within the sporting world in general. They just change the laws and punishments to suit whoever it affects, with a bloody minded attitude.
They so blatantly operate the one law for one and one law for another stance, without as much blinking an eyelid.
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| Where can i see the incident? can people keep this post updated on the outcome as im at work
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| how can they even say there trying to clean the game up when they lets game go without doing anything
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| A nice rest for the Crusaders game then
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1 game!!!
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