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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: jungle man "Here we are again talking about a game where an official has had a bearing on the outcome. McDermott said that it didn't make any difference what stage of the game it was, a penalty is a penalty... fair enough.
For all those who still have the match recorded, look at the play the ball when we were putting our selves in position for the drop goal (where Danny Orr runs it in) I think it's the 2nd play the ball after the scrum. See how square the markers are, penalty every day of the week? YES / Is ref going to win the game for Cas in front of the posts? NO / Did the ref bottle what was a blatant penalty decision? YOU BET HE DID. I didn't notice this at first due to the fact the defenders where all rushing about, but I encourage you to watch it and see for yourselves. I have never seen a ref run off the field as quickly in my life. If anyone has got the League Express, there is a picture of Sinfield after he struck the ball.... the ref is already on his bike
Rather than posting misleading freeze frames why don't you just watch the video rlhererl at about 2h05.
As you'll see at every PTB after the scrum Cas pass the ball straight away therefore there's no possibility of a penalty.
As for Peacock being involved in the tackle he does so after the onside players make the initial tackle (i.e. he gains no advantage) - read the rules above that's not a penalty.
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41106.jpg You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: jungle man "It was the one before where Danny Orr tried side stepping through the line, but this one is just has good. In regards to the guy from the previous post, saying that they can be not square as long as they don't make a tackle, what a load of sh*t!!! The game has gone now, but it's the fact that it should have been a penalty with would have handed the game to Cas on a plate, but wasn't given.'"
Hey it's not my opinion its in the rules of the game in black and white.
If the ball is played quickly, all players will not necessarily have time to retire the prescribed distance. They should be penalised only if they intentionally interfere with play – either actively or passively.
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41106.jpg You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Yep, the same touch judge who had to point out one of the worst high tackles of 2011 performed by none other than D. McGuire as Bentham had somehow ignored it, despite later penalising a slap on the shoulder to end the game. Consistency?'"
Danny McGuire the dreaded enforcer
How bitter are you - it wasn't even your team that lost!
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| Quote: Omar Little "Rather than posting misleading freeze frames why don't you just watch the video rlhererl at about 2h05.
As you'll see at every PTB after the scrum Cas pass the ball straight away therefore there's no possibility of a penalty.
As for Peacock being involved in the tackle he does so after the onside players make the initial tackle (i.e. he gains no advantage) - read the rules above that's not a penalty.'"
I have watched it and when Ben Davis plays the ball, Peacock is offside and he is not square (Had plenty of time to get back). On the next PTB, Buderaus is not square and runs round the rook to try to put Chase off. BOTH PENALTIES!!!!
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38511.jpg [b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox.
"He'd say if we had 13 Bernard Dwyers we wouldn't lose many RL games. It's the same for us with JJB"[/b:3v5chy3z]:38511.jpg |
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| Quote: jungle man "I have watched it and when Ben Davis plays the ball, Peacock is offside and he is not square (Had plenty of time to get back). On the next PTB, Buderaus is not square and runs round the rook to try to put Chase off. BOTH PENALTIES!!!!'"
As were all nit picking here, when we went for the drop goal right at the end of the game the one where danny orr charged it down, well he was well offside,penalty to leeds under the sticks, game over
besides this how many times this season would our 2 tries that were disallowed for forward passes, would they have been awarded?
Cas had 2 chances throughout the game one of which chase scored,jones was held up close on your other only chance
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Omar Little "Rather than posting misleading freeze frames why don't you just watch the video rlhererl at about 2h05.'"
Bit silly inviting me to watch the video. Where do you think I got the still from? And there is nothing misleading about it, as can be seen clearly from anyone who wishes to watch the video, neither of the markers were square. Any frame would have shown that.
Quote: Omar Little "As you'll see at every PTB after the scrum Cas pass the ball straight away therefore there's no possibility of a penalty.'"
I'm not sure what you mean here. If the markers aren't square and interfere with play it is a straight-forward penalty. In this instance, both McGuire and Peacock were at fault and both charged at Rangi Chase. Penalty.
Quote: Omar Little "As for Peacock being involved in the tackle he does so after the onside players make the initial tackle (i.e. he gains no advantage) - read the rules above that's not a penalty.'"
Read them yourself, he intentionally interfered with play from an offside position, therefore it's a penalty.
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| Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "As were all nit picking here, when we went for the drop goal right at the end of the game the one where danny orr charged it down, well he was well offside,penalty to leeds under the sticks, game over
besides this how many times this season would our 2 tries that were disallowed for forward passes, would they have been awarded?
Cas had 2 chances throughout the game one of which chase scored,jones was held up close on your other only chance'"
Every time on Sky.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Omar Little "Hey it's not my opinion its in the rules of the game in black and white.
If the ball is played quickly, all players will not necessarily have time to retire the prescribed distance. They should be penalised only if they intentionally interfere with play – either actively or passively.'"
So if I run at an offside player it's no penalty. If he tackles me it's a penalty. What part of that rule are you misunderstanding?
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41106.jpg You come at the king - You better not miss.
It ain't what you takin', it's who you takin' from, ya feel me? How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies?:41106.jpg |
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "So if I run at an offside player it's no penalty. If he tackles me it's a penalty. What part of that rule are you misunderstanding?'"
Watch the video - no one ran at or was tackled by the players you're saying weren't square - the ball was passed cleanly away from dummy half. Peacock later joins a tackle (as third man in) but as the rules state "A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost".
If your this upset about a Leeds-Cas game, how bad are you if a decision goes against wigan?
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| Gutted we lost but some of the posts really are not pointing at why we actually lost this match. In the second half we gave away far too many penalties which took leeds from there own 30 to our 30. This eventually changed the score from 8-2 to 8-8. We have been the same all season giving away penalties from which teams score. Come on Terry surely you must know this and need to drill into certain players jones,ferres,mc oldrick etc that this is going to cost us if not careful a top 8 finish.
Come on the tigers will be their fri to see them give away too many penalties again against Leeds and to be honest I cant see us winning that game either revenge or not. Hope the tigers prove me wrong though.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Omar Little "Watch the video - no one ran at or was tackled by the players you're saying weren't square - the ball was passed cleanly away from dummy half. Peacock later joins a tackle (as third man in) but as the rules state "A player who is out of play may again take part in the game when the advantage gained by not retiring has been lost".
If your this upset about a Leeds-Cas game, how bad are you if a decision goes against wigan?'"
Is anyone who disagrees with you "upset"?
The Peacock offside would be given in plenty of games. It stands to reason that if there was no advantage to be gained from joining the tackle then he wouldn't have done so. There was only one man in the tackle after all, and it is a pretty bold assumption to say that Cas lost no advantage from a second tackler wrapping up the ball. But even if you ignore that one, the Chase drop-goal attempt was clearly interfered with by 2 players in off-side positions.
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