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Quote: browney "You people anger me, what about all the good things he does no one remembers any off that, i.e. the quality pass that sets most of our tries up.

Yes he does make some stupid mistakes but who doesn’t.

Unfortunately most of the quality passes you speak of, more often, benefit the opposition. This is not simply a vent after yesterdays display but against his performances all season.
I do not wish to anger you and I do agree that people make mistakes. My initial argument was that he has dropped more than his fair share of clangers this year and this seems to get overlooked. TM and shifty not so lucky. Maybe he is playing out of position and maybe it's TM's fault for playing him at fullback. I just feel that catching tackling and passing was a basic requirement of a pro rugby player, irrespective where you play!

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Yes that was a bad option and he did that because Tuson over ran the ball on the second tackle, But if the pass had came off it was a defiantly a try, so he would of been the best player in the world.

Their is no pleasing some of our fans, I hear it all the time in the stands one minute the team are brill the next there not fit to wear the shirt, some of the fans have never played rugby so can't appreciate how difficult the game is,

I am not saying he is the best player but he has been ever present in the team, I would say he has been our best player all season.

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One of the worst displays by a Cas full-back I've ever witnessed.

What makes it more galling is Matterson publicly criticising Thompson for 'flattened performances'. I wont hold my breath in anticipation of him saying anything negative about Goldy, or for that matter his other waste of space countryman.

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Quote: boothdaz "Unfortunately most of the quality passes you speak of, more often, benefit the opposition. This is not simply a vent after yesterdays display but against his performances all season.
I do not wish to anger you and I do agree that people make mistakes. My initial argument was that he has dropped more than his fair share of clangers this year and this seems to get overlooked. TM and shifty not so lucky. Maybe he is playing out of position and maybe it's TM's fault for playing him at fullback. I just feel that catching tackling and passing was a basic requirement of a pro rugby player, irrespective where you play!'"



Its not you personally, it's just in general, i think he plays better at full back then SO, but that's my oppion.

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Quote: browney "Its not you personally, it's just in general, i think he plays better at full back then SO, but that's my oppion.'"


100% agree with you mate it's just a matter of opinion. We could have scored a try with that pass .. my opinion was that whilst we could have, 6 points up and making inroads in to the Hull defense, maybe a speculative pass such as that should be left to someone with a better % history of finding a cas player lol

Despite the loss, enjoyed the match yesterday thought it was a great atmosphere and got a groovy tan so icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Quote: boothdaz "100% agree with you mate it's just a matter of opinion. We could have scored a try with that pass .. my opinion was that whilst we could have, 6 points up and making inroads in to the Hull defense, maybe a speculative pass such as that should be left to someone with a better % history of finding a cas player lol

Despite the loss, enjoyed the match yesterday thought it was a great atmosphere and got a groovy tan so

Yeah i agree he did not need to throw that pass at all because we was winning at the time and did not need to force the play, should ov put more pressure on them.

But yeah i was a very good atmosphere, shame it looked like it was a hull home game.

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It seems that the majority of games this season, all i seem to be doing is screaming at Ryan for doing things a pro rugby player shouldn't be doing. At full back he constantly lets the ball bounce, and if he does get underneath the ball he still somehow doesn't catch it and let's it bounce. He misses tackle after tackle and doesn't make the last desperation tackle a full back should be doing. If he comes into the line, or plays at half back you can guarantee a couple of stupid passes with one at least always resulting in a full length try for the opposition. Plus it seems again we're seeing that awful discipline he often has keeping into his game. The opposition only has to laugh at him and he starts pushing and shoving players, giving penalties away for no reason but us under more pressure.

There is no doubt he can provide that quality pass, he did so yesterday and has done before. Last season against Saints at home when they ripped us to shreds, he was our one spark of quality and set up all our tries. Maybe just maybe he's nothing more than a good centre and should have been played in that position every game since we signed him. I'd play him at centre or get rid because he isn't a SL player in any other position.

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never like mcgoldrick at all

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But he does have plenty of tricks up his sleeve, cant pass, cant catch a high ball, cant tackle!

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Like I said on my the coach must go thread, Mcgoldrick is never a full back and its only TM that picks him there. No other coach would play him there.

At Bradford Michael Platt was terrible at FB and got alot of stick from the Fans. Now he is in the centre's the fans have taken to him.

Mcgoldrick was bought as a centre, why not play him there.

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Quote: franchisecas "Mcgoldrick was bought as a centre, why not play him there.'"


Because he's **** there too
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Other than the things mentioned. He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. he is NOT the captain but always seems to think he can just walk up to the ref and give his views, where he promptly is told to get lost (not that he listens!)

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Biggest mistake Cas ever made was giving McGoldrick a 4 yr contract extension in 2008.

At the time he was looking quite good playing in an attacking triumvirate with Sherwin & Dorn but since then he's gone backwards. It beggars belief that he was given such a long term contract whilst at the same time the club refused to offer Dorn (our best player in 200icon_cool.gif anything more than a 1 yr extension.

Contracts of such length should only be offered to the most outstanding and preferably young talent that you wish to keep hold of in the face of competition from other clubs and certainly not to players that take up an overseas spot at a time when the allowance is being reduced.

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Quote: Cecil B "Biggest mistake Cas ever made was giving McGoldrick a 4 yr contract extension in 2008.

At the time he was looking quite good playing in an attacking triumvirate with Sherwin & Dorn but since then he's gone backwards. It beggars belief that he was given such a long term contract whilst at the same time the club refused to offer Dorn (our best player in 200icon_cool.gif anything more than a 1 yr extension.

Contracts of such length should only be offered to the most outstanding and preferably young talent that you wish to keep hold of in the face of competition from other clubs and certainly not to players that take up an overseas spot at a time when the allowance is being reduced.'"


I liked dorn but everyone just remembers the great tries he scored, everyone seems to have forgotten how many tries he let in.

And before anyone says he was better in defence than mcgoldrick, watch a few old games and you will see what i mean.

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Quote: pyeman "I liked dorn but everyone just remembers the great tries he scored, everyone seems to have forgotten how many tries he let in.'"


It's the same for McGoldrick I bet his missed tackles/not even attempting to tackle has cost the team more points then he's been involved in. Not to mention his hospital passes, inability to catch/be in position and organising the defence in front of him, Championship player at best, just like half the squad.

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