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| Quote: barnsley bill "Let's say we did sell Chase to the Wire, what would we want in return, we value him at 500k, but they will not pay that, so it would have to be a cash plus players deal, I think I would settle for 350k in cash and a player like Chris Bridge or Simon Grix, or maybe both. We then get 1 or 2 decent players in positions we need to strengthen plus cash in the bank, this is just a shot in the dark, but could Todd Carney be tempted with that kind of money at our disposal.'"
Bridge or Grix??...You can dream!!...
Think the likes of Cooper or Blythe would be the best you would get out of us.....Also possible a deal sending a few promising youngsters (the Evans twins, Gareth O'Brien, etc) to Cas on loan would be attractive to both sides.
To be honest though, the Chase thing seems a little far fetched....Without seeming arrogant, we don't need him next season and when Briers does retire, I suspect we will seek a bigger name than Chase.
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "
unless you have lived abroad nd not watched rugby ever Monoghan is a hooker!
i believe rangi being brought in to cover briers or myler also i think he would make a good hooker if you look at his skill set good quick feet good distribution he could cover quite a few positions'"
Well Monoghan was bought as a half back wasn't he?
As for Chase playing at hooker?...you would be curbing his natural game...and as for bringing him in as cover
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Bridge or Grix??...You can dream!!...
Firstly where not called Leigh Centurions, as Millward as said, we want quality not quantity, and I thought you signed Ratchford to eventually replace Briers.
Also name any stand offs better than Chase that Warrington could attract.
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| Quote: barnsley bill "Firstly where not called Leigh Centurions, as Millward as said, we want quality not quantity, and I thought you signed Ratchford to eventually replace Briers.'"
And you wasn't when you had Cooper off us last year either....
I think the jury's still out on what Ratchford's role is going to be.....At the moment, utility back is looking pretty much odds on for the next year or two.
Most folk still anticipate another signing to take the Briers role eventually.
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| No disrespect to the players but Cas need a better quality of player than Blythe, Evans, McCarthy etc.., and like I have said before if Warrington want Chase, they must pay full asking price which could mean a couple of your decent players being given to us.
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| Quote: barnsley bill "No disrespect to the players but Cas need a better quality of player than Blythe, Evans, McCarthy etc.., and like I have said before if Warrington want Chase, they must pay full asking price which could mean a couple of your decent players being given to us.'"
Unfortunately, clubs like Cas are the ones that suffer most from the simple fact that there is not enough quality to go around a 14 team league.
You are inevitably going to end up in a situation where you end up with the bigger club's cast-offs and fringe players, coupled with, perhaps, 1 or 2 'big' names from down under.
Look at last season, Mathers from us, Fozzard from Saints, both cast offs....Both decent enough players, but neither ever likely to be involved in a trophy winning squad in the future.
Until you get your stadium up and running and some serious investment, then you will continue to be the small fish in the big pond, especially when it comes to recruitment.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Unfortunately, clubs like Cas are the ones that suffer most from the simple fact that there is not enough quality to go around a 14 team league.'"
False, Cas at full strength showed they were more than good enough to compete - it's just unfortunate 4 of the injuries were all season ending and for prop forwards.
Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "You are inevitably going to end up in a situation where you end up with the bigger club's cast-offs and fringe players, coupled with, perhaps, 1 or 2 'big' names from down under.'"
That happens at EVERY team, there is not one team that has a team full of the clubs home grown players.
Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Look at last season, Mathers from us, Fozzard from Saints, both cast offs....Both decent enough players, but neither ever likely to be involved in a trophy winning squad in the future.'"
The same Richard Mathers Tony Smith and most Warrington fans wanted to keep? There's also a chance he will only be a squad player next season for Cas, Fozzard was brought in as cover.
Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Until you get your stadium up and running and some serious investment, then you will continue to be the small fish in the big pond, especially when it comes to recruitment.'"
Could you actually be any more patronising? I remember the "small fish" was top of the table a quarter of the way through the season before they lost 4 props, both wingers a centre, the fullback, 3 second rowers and 2 hookers.
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| Quote: Gronk! "False, Cas at full strength showed they were more than good enough to compete - it's just unfortunate 4 of the injuries were all season ending and for prop forwards.
That happens at EVERY team, there is not one team that has a team full of the clubs home grown players.
The same Richard Mathers Tony Smith and most Warrington fans wanted to keep? There's also a chance he will only be a squad player next season for Cas, Fozzard was brought in as cover.
Could you actually be any more patronising? I remember the "small fish" was top of the table a quarter of the way through the season before they lost 4 props, both wingers a centre, the fullback, 3 second rowers and 2 hookers.'"
Hey, I don't mean to patronise and I apologise if it seems that way...Wire were in a similar position to you not so long back, so I can understand your view.
However, your post actually backs up what I meant......Yes, you made a great start to the season (as did Quins if I remember correctly), but once the first choice 17 gets disrupted, then the wheels came off and you began shipping some big defeats.
Ultimately, your main problem is that you are still viewed as that 'small fish' by the most important people - THE PLAYERS.
Why did Mathers quit Wire for Cas?....Money, simple as......Yes, he came out with the usual stuff of wanting regular rugby, but I'm betting he got a bigger offer from Cas than he did from us....Thus, you are overpaying for average players, which is inevitably what happens to the clubs lower down the table, as these clubs are less attractive to players.
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| Could you actually be any more patronising? I remember the "small fish" was top of the table a quarter of the way through the season before they lost 4 props, both wingers a centre, the fullback, 3 second rowers and 2 hookers.'" ]
And the chief gynaecologist's lambretta!
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "However, your post actually backs up what I meant......Yes, you made a great start to the season (as did Quins if I remember correctly), but once the first choice 17 gets disrupted, then the wheels came off and you began shipping some big defeats.'"
So missing 13 players and losing games mean Cas aren't good enough to compete in the long haul? Any team in world rugby minus 13 players would struggle.
Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Why did Mathers quit Wire for Cas?....Money, simple as......Yes, he came out with the usual stuff of wanting regular rugby, but I'm betting he got a bigger offer from Cas than he did from us....Thus, you are overpaying for average players, which is inevitably what happens to the clubs lower down the table, as these clubs are less attractive to players.'"
Mathers is one of the lower earners of the "regular" first teamers apparently, so he isn't being overpaid based on that.
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| Mathers quit Wire for Cas because he wanted to play rugby, which he wouldn't do being behind Hodgson.
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| Quote: barnsley bill "No disrespect to the players but Cas need a better quality of player than Blythe, Evans, McCarthy etc.., and like I have said before if Warrington want Chase, they must pay full asking price which could mean a couple of your decent players being given to us.'"
that wont happen.... smith has his players... they are his team and he has given most of them contracts... he wont simply 'give' some of them away to a team they wont want to join... he has the money to make the transfer happen if he needs it without having to even entertain the idea of a player exchange..... if the rumours are true we have paid you £320,000 for him in a straight deal.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "we have paid you £320,000 for him in a straight deal.'"
Where has that money come from? More fiction from a deluded dire fan.
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| Quote: centralparkforever "Where has that money come from? '"
Probably from the Take That show you and your boyfriend went to this year....
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Hey, I don't mean to patronise and I apologise if it seems that way...Wire were in a similar position to you not so long back, so I can understand your view.
However, your post actually backs up what I meant......Yes, you made a great start to the season (as did Quins if I remember correctly), but once the first choice 17 gets disrupted, then the wheels came off and you began shipping some big defeats.
Ultimately, your main problem is that you are still viewed as that 'small fish' by the most important people - THE PLAYERS.
Why did Mathers quit Wire for Cas?....Money, simple as......Yes, he came out with the usual stuff of wanting regular rugby, but I'm betting he got a bigger offer from Cas than he did from us....Thus, you are overpaying for average players, which is inevitably what happens to the clubs lower down the table, as these clubs are less attractive to players.'"
Dont forget dita .... any mug with money can buy a squad, but they will never be yours , just mercenaries.
I wonder if Smith could coach without a chequebook
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