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| Quote: bren2k "For the final time, for the hard of thinking - I have a problem with a New Zealander playing for England; I don't give a rat's ar5e who he plays for. Wazzock.'"
Post in the should chase play for england thread then and not in the well done rangi chase thread.
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| Quote: pyeman "Post in the should chase play for england thread then and not in the well done rangi chase thread.'"
My sentiments exactly.
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| Quote: bren2k "Georgie - I think I responded to the orginal post by expressing my bafflement at the award; I remain baffled by it, as did Rangi by the look of his spaced out expression during the post-match.'"
But the thread's simply intended to congratulate him on receiving it... that's why it's headed "Well done Rangi" Surely any discussion on the subject should go elsewhere.
Quote: bren2k "If you want the discussion moved to the other thread, talk to your mods - I can't help you there.'"
Sorry, I've read the AUP. I'm not even going to begin to do anything that could be interpreted as criticising the moderation process. You can help us all by posting on the appropriate thread, however.
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| Quote: bren2k "Some of you lot have got a bigger chip on your collective shoulders than WTW fans, and that takes some doing!
Once again - this has got naff all to do with Castleford.
HTH.'"
Okay, it's got nothing to do with Castleford. So let's stretch the empirical evidence to breaking point and assume that it's nothing to do with Castleford. So where does that leave us? It leaves us with a vociferous group of Rangi Chase nay-sayers, most of who (quite coincidentally) also appear to also be Wakey fans. Fine.
I'd like to ask, therefore, how you feel about (say) Maurie Fa'asavalu? Or Danny Brough? Or Anthony Minicello? In fact let's widen the debate - how do you feel about Greg Rusedski? Kevin Pietersen? Craig Keiswetter? The list goes on...
In terms of representative football, Rangi Chase has turned out (afaik) for the NZ Maoris and the Exiles. Now I don't know how the feeling is generally but to me the Exiles are nothing more than a feeble attempt to give England a decent game wrapped in a spin of RFL marketing bull. Okay, by definition playing for them means you weren't born in England, but that just brings me to the Maoris. I've got no desire to demean or belittle the indigenous people of NZ, but the fact is that playing for the Maoris is a cultural, not a nationalistic thing. I doubt anyone in the world is more proud than Rangi himself of his Maori roots, but global politics is such that being a Maori doesn't define a national identity, simply a cultural one.
So Rangi's already turned out for a team which ties him to his cultural heritage (good on him) and a side dreamed up by the marketeers at Red Hall. And somehow that's worse than Broughy turning out for Scotland AND England? Or Minicello deciding he's Aussie AND Italian?
Come off it!
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| Quote: bren2k "You know as well as I do that if the Kiwi's would have had him, he'd have played for them; as he said not long ago, it was his boyhood dream. Funny how he only started supping pints of bitter in a Union Jack waistcoat AFTER his country of origin overlooked him again, don't you think?
His selection is a joke to just about everyone outside of Cas and if he hadn't been a Cas player, it would have been a joke to most of you too; not Fully of course, who can prove his credentials by quoting his own posts on an internet message board.'"
I'll take that as an apology.
You know when Bren has been proven wrong when he starts making sarcastic comments.
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| Quote: Disco "Okay, it's got nothing to do with Castleford. So let's stretch the empirical evidence to breaking point and assume that it's nothing to do with Castleford. So where does that leave us? It leaves us with a vociferous group of Rangi Chase nay-sayers, most of who (quite coincidentally) also appear to also be Wakey fans. Fine.
I'd like to ask, therefore, how you feel about (say) Maurie Fa'asavalu? Or Danny Brough? Or Anthony Minicello? In fact let's widen the debate - how do you feel about Greg Rusedski? Kevin Pietersen? Craig Keiswetter? The list goes on...
In terms of representative football, Rangi Chase has turned out (afaik) for the NZ Maoris and the Exiles. Now I don't know how the feeling is generally but to me the Exiles are nothing more than a feeble attempt to give England a decent game wrapped in a spin of RFL marketing bull. Okay, by definition playing for them means you weren't born in England, but that just brings me to the Maoris. I've got no desire to demean or belittle the indigenous people of NZ, but the fact is that playing for the Maoris is a cultural, not a nationalistic thing. I doubt anyone in the world is more proud than Rangi himself of his Maori roots, but global politics is such that being a Maori doesn't define a national identity, simply a cultural one.
So Rangi's already turned out for a team which ties him to his cultural heritage (good on him) and a side dreamed up by the marketeers at Red Hall. And somehow that's worse than Broughy turning out for Scotland AND England? Or Minicello deciding he's Aussie AND Italian?
Come off it!'"
Who said it was worse than any of those things?
The old 'is it because I is from Cas?' routine had already been stretched to breaking point and you've just taken it into the realms of ridiculousness.
How many times do I have to tell you that an objection to non-English people playing for England is not a criticism of the team they happen to play their club football for?!
Really, you're just making yourself look thick.
p.s Georgie - once again, I'm just responding to the discussion; if your mods think it should take place in the other thread, I'm sure they'll tidy things up.
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| Quote: bren2k "Who said it was worse than any of those things?
The old 'is it because I is from Cas?' routine had already been stretched to breaking point and you've just taken it into the realms of ridiculousness.
How many times do I have to tell you that an objection to non-English people playing for England is not a criticism of the team they happen to play their club football for?!
Really, you're just making yourself look thick.
p.s Georgie - once again, I'm just responding to the discussion; if your mods think it should take place in the other thread, I'm sure they'll tidy things up.'"
Ok ill play along if you point us to the threads you and your politically correct friends condemed in such a vocal way previous non engilsh born player selected??
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| Quote: bigalf "Well done Goldie
Is that a general well done on his performance or a well done for actually completing a game without attempting to end someones career ?
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| Quote: bensbag "Is that a general well done on his performance or a well done for actually completing a game without attempting to end someones career ?'"
This is hilarious, the bitterness and jealousy of seeing Castleford players playing International rugby is driving them insane. Long may it continue
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| Quote: bensbag "Is that a general well done on his performance or a well done for actually completing a game without attempting to end someones career ?'"
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| Quote: bren2k "Who said it was worse than any of those things?
The old 'is it because I is from Cas?' routine had already been stretched to breaking point and you've just taken it into the realms of ridiculousness.
How many times do I have to tell you that an objection to non-English people playing for England is not a criticism of the team they happen to play their club football for?!
Really, you're just making yourself look thick.
p.s Georgie - once again, I'm just responding to the discussion; if your mods think it should take place in the other thread, I'm sure they'll tidy things up.'"
My post was in fact [ibased [/ion the premise that your objections are nothing to do with Castleford - the clue was kind of in the first sentence if you care to read it. However, as you seemingly didn't read it, and subsequently offered no response whatsoever to the valid questions I went on to ask, I can only assume it's not me who's "thick".
(Yes, I know. Name calling is never a substitute for reasoned argument, but as you're not actually putting forward any reasoned argument it's tough to maintain one's standards...)
Anyway, that'll do me on the subject. Once again... well done Rangi.
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| Quote: Disco "My post was in fact [ibased [/ion the premise that your objections are nothing to do with Castleford - the clue was kind of in the first sentence if you care to read it. However, as you seemingly didn't read it, and subsequently offered no response whatsoever to the valid questions I went on to ask, I can only assume it's not me who's "thick".
(Yes, I know. Name calling is never a substitute for reasoned argument, but as you're not actually putting forward any reasoned argument it's tough to maintain one's standards...)
Anyway, that'll do me on the subject. Once again... well done Rangi.
Surely I don't need to spell it out for you?
If I disagree with Chase's inclusion in the England team because he isn't English, and it's not a Cas issue, then logic would suggest that I feel the same way about all the other players you've listed. I would have thought that was too obvious to require an answer?
For the record - I disagree with players of any sport playing fast and loose with their nationality for the sake of getting a shot that they otherwise wouldn't have got.
And once again - I still don't think it was a MotM performance.
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| Quote: bren2k "And once again - I still don't think it was a MotM performance.
On a thread marked "Well done Rangi"
D-O I H-A-V-E T-O S-P-E-L-L I-T O-U-T ??
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| Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "On a thread marked "Well done Rangi"
D-O I H-A-V-E T-O S-P-E-L-L I-T O-U-T ??'"
Do I really need to repeat it for a third time?
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