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1. Steadman
2. Plange
3. Joyner
4. Blackmore
5. St John Ellis
6. Hardisty
7. Hepworth
8. Hartley
9. K. Beardmore
10. Crooks
11. K. Ward
12. Bryant
13. Reilly
14. Nikau
15. Eagar
16. Vowles
17. B. Lockwood
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| Quote: mdean "I am not having Big Ern in an all time list.
NEVER - EVER - EVER - if you are not in the immidiate Rodgers family, then you are borderline to be sectioned Dave!'"
I thought this also but in the 20 years I've been watching Cas I can remember quite a few average players we've had on the flanks but not many good ones. In his first season Shenton played mainly on the wing so for this reason I think I'd have to go for Ellis and Shenton. |
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to be honest mate I just couldn't think of another top winger. I'm only 22 so off the top of my head that as the best team I could do lol
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I'm a Wakefield fan (so I hope I'm not intruding) but I've seen a lot of Cas over the years so if I can have a go too I'd pick:
1 Steadman
2 Plange
3 Joyner
4 Blackmore
5 St John Ellis
6 Chase
7 Brough
8 Ward
9 Beardmore
10 Johnson
11 French (Ian)
12 Nikau
13 Vowles
I feel bad about not picking Reilly but although I saw him play he was passed his best really. I also liked Dale Fritz a lot but decided Vowles was going to be doing the type of work he was doing so chose French as a runner instead.
Thought about Gibbs but I don't think I saw him play his best games but he would make the bench if I had one.
I realise in reality you wouldn't pick Nikau and Blackmore together if I understand the story correctly but as we are only yalking about a virtual team I figured I was safe.
Crooks and England were unlucky not to get in but I did particularly like Johnson's ball skills so he got the place and Ward is a first pick as far as I am concerned.
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1 Steadman
2 SJ, Ellis
3 Joiner
4 Blackmore
5 Fenton
6 Chase
7 Ford
8 Bartram
10 Crooks
11 Nicou
12 Realy
13 Vowles
14 Gibbs
15 Sampson
16 K, Beardmore
17 Fritz
theres lots of players once again it all comes down to the age of the fans , one thing for sure Cas have had some cracking players, born & bred and brought in
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| Quote: Bethman "I thought this also but in the 20 years I've been watching Cas I can remember quite a few average players we've had on the flanks but not many good ones. In his first season Shenton played mainly on the wing so for this reason I think I'd have to go for Ellis and Shenton.'"
ha ha, I don't blame you.
To be honest, I actually liked him as a player, I also find a lot of who you like has a lot to do with how you feel when you go, I used to like Pickering and Shick (spelling) but becuase in loved going in those days, I remember them as better than they probably were!! |
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Always difficult to compare players from different eras. How about the best TEAM to play, in that all they players played together in the same team.
1. Flowers
2. Gay
3. Eager
4. Maloney
5. Rogers
6. Orr
7. Davies
8. Sykes
9. Raper
10. Sampson
11. Harland
12. Fritz
13. Vowles.
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1. Steadman
2. Ellis
3. Blackmore
4. Anderson
5. Middleton
6. Kemp
7. Ford
8. Crooks
9. Russell
10. Ketteridge/Sampson
11. Morrison
12. Smales
13. Nikau.
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1. Steadman
2. Plange
3. Joyner
4. Blackmore
5. St John Ellis
6. Hardisty
7. Hepworth
8. Hartley
9. K. Beardmore
10. Crooks
11. K. Ward
12. Bryant
13. Reilly
14. Nikau
15. Eagar
16. Vowles
17. B. Lockwood'"
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I agree with most of your team but with two exceptions.
1. Not Steadman I know he was an excepional player but he was the coach that started the rot at Castleford and I will never forgive him for that. My number one shirt would go to
Richard Gay he always gave 100% and never shirked from any tackles.
My second choice would be the Number 8 Hartley from what I am told was a very good player but from what I have seen and because of his commitment to the club my Number 8 is Craig Huby.
All the rest of your team I wish we could clone them and have them now. By the way for me the coach would have to be Stuart Raper.
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| Quote: mdean "I am not a great historian, but there are a few people I think I would swap
I saw him play when he was at Manly. For me he is the best player this country has ever produced, and as a Wakey fan that's hard to say. Physically, mentally and ability. He was a bit of an animal but who wasn't then.
For me what set him apart and why I rate him above all others is because of how he made it in Oz.
He went there with a reputation as a hard case. This did not impress the Aussies or the press. The talk was that he would be put in his place as soon as he played his first game, he was after all a soft pom. Malcolm was having non of it and was utterly unfazed. In his first few games he made it his mission to seek out and destroy the hard man of every team he faced. He succeeded and nobody called him a soft pom EVER again.
Can you imagine that now. If we could put a tenth of Malcolm's attitude, guts and drive in the 17 who face Australia next year we would destroy them. Sadly we don't make em like that anymore. Plenty of hard men and a few thugs but none with the brains to match.
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| Quote: vastman "I saw him play when he was at Manly. For me he is the best player this country has ever produced, and as a Wakey fan that's hard to say. Physically, mentally and ability. He was a bit of an animal but who wasn't then.
For me what set him apart and why I rate him above all others is because of how he made it in Oz.
He went there with a reputation as a hard case. This did not impress the Aussies or the press. The talk was that he would be put in his place as soon as he played his first game, he was after all a soft pom. Malcolm was having non of it and was utterly unfazed. In his first few games he made it his mission to seek out and destroy the hard man of every team he faced. He succeeded and nobody called him a soft pom EVER again.
Can you imagine that now. If we could put a tenth of Malcolm's attitude, guts and drive in the 17 who face Australia next year we would destroy them. Sadly we don't make em like that anymore. Plenty of hard men and a few thugs but none with the brains to match.'"
He hasn't lost it either...he trains in the gym with the intensity of a guy half his age..more often than not wearing Manly training gear. |
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| Quote: nhs1984 "1. Steadman
2. Plange
3. Joyner
4. Blackmore
5. St John Ellis
6. Hardisty
7. Hepworth
8. Hartley
9. K. Beardmore
10. Crooks
11. K. Ward
12. Bryant
13. Reilly
14. Nikau
15. Eagar
16. Vowles
17. B. Lockwood'"
I agree with most of your team but with two exceptions.
1. Not Steadman I know he was an excepional player but he was the coach that started the rot at Castleford and I will never forgive him for that. My number one shirt would go to
Richard Gay he always gave 100% and never shirked from any tackles.
My second choice would be the Number 8 Hartley from what I am told was a very good player but from what I have seen and because of his commitment to the club my Number 8 is Craig Huby.
All the rest of your team I wish we could clone them and have them now. By the way for me the coach would have to be Stuart Raper.'"
I fully accept that Steady wasn't the best coach we have ever had, but this topic is about players not coaches and in my opinion he was the best full back that I have seen (pushed close by Derek Edwards and Gary Belcher).
I also accept Craig Huby's commitment to the club, unfortunately he is not in the same class as Dennis Hartley was - read Malcolm Reilly's autobiography where he states that the only person who ever scared him on the pitch was Dennis!! (quite a compliment). The only 2 other props to come close to Dennis were Crooksy & Kevin Ward - so I put Wardy to 2nd row where he started his career.
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| Quote: Johnny The Fox "I put Wardy to 2nd row where he started his career.'"
I heard he actually started at centre. |
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| Quote: PopTart "I'm a Wakefield fan (so I hope I'm not intruding) but I've seen a lot of Cas over the years so if I can have a go too I'd pick Orr
7 Brough
8 Ward
9 Beardmore
10 Johnson
11 French (Ian)
12 Nikau
13 Vowles
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I forgot about Danny Orr. I think I will swap Chase out for him. First time round he was outstanding and gets extra points for staying so long and then coming back too.
I am wondering if I should squeeze Tony Merchant in somewhere too. |
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its hard to just name one team. Especially at second row/loose forward
One of the best I've ever seen for commitment was Danny Nutley when we got relegated in 2004 - he gave 110% in every match no matter what the scoreline was. Sadly this is the attitude that we have been lacking at times
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