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[b:3oz7jfnu]Wigan Warriors coach Shaun Wane told BBC Radio Manchester: "Some people within the club [Castleford] have come out with comments saying we're beatable and it's a great game for them and they're very confident. Many of the comments I've heard have been bordering on disrespectful. They can be as confident as they want, but they're going to get a tough game this weekend and we'll be trying our best to make sure they don't get that win. We've played in some big games over these last few years and they've not played in as many, if any, so to be that confident is very risky for them. They come here with confidence because they've scored a lot of points and beaten us at home, but I wouldn't be overconfident if I was them." [u:3oz7jfnu]Incidentally Wane's mob got stuffed 16 - 4[/u:3oz7jfnu] [/b:3oz7jfnu]:30462.jpg



As i have posted previously Millward has no respect whatsoever in our club,the fact that he wants things done on a more professional basis within our club is also going on deaf ears from those above

Lets all just face it here but we are a club whereby the players do just as they wish each day and that the club coach doesn't have the backing of anyone?
the culture of our club is a complete shambles and which is more akin to a Sunday amateur pub side
before i get pummeled for this post, i have been told this information by a player that has recently retired and is no longer at the club

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I would expect that if he's not won at least 3 of his first 7 games he'll be gone.

I think the pressure will well and truly be pushed on him.

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lets hope our first fixtures are wigan away, leeds home, warrington away and saints home. job done bye bye milly.

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If Millward wants respect he has to earn it, not expect it. I would save time and get rid of him now, he has taken our club backwards if anything.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Fully "I would expect that if he's not won at least 3 of his first 7 games he'll be gone.

I think the pressure will well and truly be pushed on him.'"



So it should be, he stole a living last year, he makes the team perform or we get someone who can, simple as that.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: BostonSpaTiger "If Millward wants respect he has to earn it, not expect it. I would save time and get rid of him now, he has taken our club backwards if anything.'"



Couldn't have put it better myself, to many people ready to make excuses for him in my opinion, if a player performed so poorly people would want him dropped. Even if we are lucky enough to get shut of him early on it will still set us back significantly.

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I have been a cas fan for a long time, the players that took to the field this year need to stand back and take a good look at them selves and give it all they have and stop blaming things on Millward this as been going on for as long as i can remember the players are paid well for playing a game most of us have played for the fun of it so if they do not want to play because they do not like the boss then they should try a 40 hour week for £6 per hour

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Ian Millward needs to earn respect? for real? Lets not forget he is a coach with 2 Super League Titles, 2 Challenge Cups and a World Club Challenge trophy in the bank, yes with a good set of players at St Helens but you still have to win them, whats wrong with a coach wanting to install a bit of professionalism to the squad? if your players don't want to act professional for an established club like Cas then its pretty much a waste of time.

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Quote: SDGiants "Ian Millward needs to earn respect? for real? Lets not forget he is a coach with 2 Super League Titles, 2 Challenge Cups and a World Club Challenge trophy in the bank, yes with a good set of players at St Helens but you still have to win them, whats wrong with a coach wanting to install a bit of professionalism to the squad? if your players don't want to act professional for an established club like Cas then its pretty much a waste of time.'"


You don't get respect by treating your squad like dirt.

All those trophies were over a decade ago too, look what he's done with full time teams since3 wins
North Queensland - 14 games 2 wins
Cas - 28 games 6 wins (missed 2? games though so 6 from 26)

43 losses, wow massive respect! Even if you add in his Saints record he's barely over 50%.

So a poor coach who treats his players like dirt should get automatic respect, right oh! He should have never got the job and he should have been sacked after the Fev debacle.

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I think it's a little tough on Millward to make that call as yet. Bearing in mind our back line was decimated by injuries, suspensions to certain 'key' players, and the death of the guy's son.... Surely this is as disruptive to the other squad members as any issues over mutual respect? Mix in making 1 month loan signings to patch up a busted squad, it's a little harsh to berate the coach for losses.

I think looking at the positives, the injuries etc gave academy players much needed first team experience which will in theory make them stronger players at first team level for this season. added to the signings Millward has made, I think we need to start judging from this point onwards.

However I think one shoddy season is enough. Any signs of the 'turmoil' we have experienced this year should signal the end of his contribution to the club, which has as yet been minimal

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6 games max - and if he hasn't performed it should be bye-bye.

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^^ agree entirely.

Although we need to be realistic about these 6 games - for example - wigan warrington salford wakefield saints - we would be looking for a minimum of two wins.

Under Matterson last year we had won 6 drawn 1 and lost 1 from our first 8 games and were top of the league. the basic reason for the moderate success is that we won the winnable games more often than not - and had a full squad to pick from

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Although alot will depend on results I think lest season the team (for most of the time) didn't look interested. If he can't change this he should go. If the performance is there (but maybe not the results) he should be given a chance.

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Players need to respect coach, management and what the club is trying to achieve and the shirt or THEY should go.

Simple as that for me, that is how tough groups are created.

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Quote: mdean "Players need to respect coach, management and what the club is trying to achieve and the shirt or THEY should go.

Simple as that for me, that is how tough groups are created.'"


In a real world yes - totally agree, but particularly in sport, it doesn't always work like that. Player power has a lot to answer for. Sometimes a group of players like to think they are untouchable. They think they cannot be replaced because the market isn't there to replace them with.

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