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| Quote: Tigerpie "I've followed Cas for 20 years now, we've never had any favours off the RFL. There have been too many dodgy calls, too many game changing decisions go against us in that time for me not to think the powers that be are against us.....they don't want us around, and frankly, that stinks.
try being 53, brought up on duke street, making it to the second team, then being told by ra ra newbies on here to behave
if half the team had the passion i feel for this club, we would have been playing the storm onight and beating the buggers
put some pride into following this club or dont bother
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| We lack strength in depth but this is something that's always been the case at Cas so we probably shouldn't be surprised by it.
Leadership is a problem. When Sherwin isn't around it's non-existent, when he is around it's not a strong as it should be. That's because the leadership should be coming from Hudson, yet he's being made to sit on the bench for half the game.
The killer instinct we lacked on Saturday was borne out of a lack of composure. We put the ball down 5 times in their 10m area in the first half and could've easily been well out of sight before their first try was incorrectly awarded, visibly deflating the team.
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| Quote: itsalldarntlane "try being 53, brought up on duke street, making it to the second team, then being told by ra ra newbies on here to behave
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You're getting boring.
But for info:
I'm not a mod on this forum: I'm a site admin - with modding responsibilities on the VT and sin bin, but here I'm first and foremost a Cas fan.
I'm 50 - it's one reason I don't behave like an hyper aggressive 13 year old.
I remember watching Hardisty and Hepworth et all win the Cup in 69 and 70 - albeit on the TV in our front room in Ferry Fryston.
Despite living in London, I'm a season ticket holder.
Not that I have to justify myself to anybody on this forum or elsewhere on the site.
"ra ra newbie" ???
anyway …
yes: the problems are strength in depth, on-field leadership and composure: and the latter comes in part from leadership: whether Hudson is on the field or not, there should be three or four senior players (in age or position) excercising leadership on the pitch and making sure we make the right decisions
Oh … a better defence against grubbers would be nice, too.
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| Quote: Poker Face "We are NEARLY a decent team. So what are we lacking ?
Leadership ? Yes
Character ? Yes
Mental strength ? Yes
Can these things be taught on the practise field in training ?'"
I don't think there's a lack of leadership. Watching on Saturday you could see at one point Ryan Hudson, James Evans and Paul Jackson all having a say behind the posts. Add in the likes of Steve Snitch, Stuart Jones and Brent Sherwin and there's a fairly experienced and influential bunch.
I think the inability to close out tight games is mainly down to fitness and probably the mental aspect of the game. Leading 20-12 we were quite comfortable but then when it becomes 20-18 how many of the side begin to think "here we go again..."?
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| Is there an element of over-confidence in going up 10-12 points in the first 10 minutes when you expect to score on every set and start making silly mistakes trying to force a try on every play? I can think of countless times we've thrown away these leads at home in recent years. Instead of forcing the opposition into their own half we usually come up with a handling error of some description and allow them back into the game.
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| Quote: tb ""ra ra newbie"
I'm still trying to work that bit out too. You'd think someone in their fifties might be capable of following the simple rules of the forum.
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| I have stated before the squad need to be fitter,as a previous poster has said you struggle to do the basics right when you are,frankly.... knackered.
I would have thought the club,knowing we have limited resources for players would get a good fitness conditioner in,and get the current squad as fit as possible,and the academy players bulked up abit ready to make the step up,as the talent is there.
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| Quote: duke street 10 "
I would have thought the club,knowing we have limited resources for players would get a good fitness conditioner in,
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Dont be daft that would cost money, dont you know we do everything on the cheap.
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| Quote: Poker Face "Yet again, we lose a game we should have won. Plenty of times last year, we lost games we should have won (did we win many that we shouldn't have - I can't remember ?). We say we have to learn from it, but do we ?
Do we just dwell on our mis-fortune and forget the good bits of fortune ?
In my opinion 10, 11, 12 sides in SL are much of a muchness and can all beat each other. These blokes have played rugby all their lives and what seems to let us down each week are the basics. If the team spend the next 5 days passing, catching, tackling - will it make us any better in our next game ? No. Why should it, they have passed, caught and practised tackling all their lives.
We are NEARLY a decent team. So what are we lacking ?
Leadership ? Yes
Character ? Yes
Mental strength ? Yes
Can these things be taught on the practise field in training ?'"
What we are so obviously lacking is a dictating scrum half.
We have been beaten 3 weeks on the trot by teams whose scrum halves have totally dominated all their plays.
Warrington - Lee Briers ran everything for them and won the game almost on his own.
Bradford - Matt Orford ran everything and all their plays came of him or Brett Kearney - who had been a spectator in their previous games.
Hull KR - Michael Dobson - totally played Sherwin off the park.
Whilst we persist with an unfit, uninterested injury prone player as our main playmaker we will struggle.
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| Quote: poppys mum "Dont be daft that would cost money, dont you know we do everything on the cheap.'"
I wouldnt say the contracts of Sherwin,Mcgoldrick etc came cheap
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| Quote: duke street 10 "I wouldnt say the contracts of Sherwin,Mcgoldrick etc came cheap
Thats why we cant afford a decent conditioner.
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| Quote: poppys mum "Thats why we cant afford a decent conditioner.'"
Oh well,maybe next year
Get a dietician as well
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| Quote: Johnny The Fox "What we are so obviously lacking is a dictating scrum half.
We have been beaten 3 weeks on the trot by teams whose scrum halves have totally dominated all their plays.
Warrington - Lee Briers ran everything for them and won the game almost on his own.
Bradford - Matt Orford ran everything and all their plays came of him or Brett Kearney - who had been a spectator in their previous games.
Hull KR - Michael Dobson - totally played Sherwin off the park.
Whilst we persist with an unfit, uninterested injury prone player as our main playmaker we will struggle.'"
That's a good observation, however I'd argue that if this is the case, then we're lacking something in our defence which should be preventing such players from being able to dominate the game.
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