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| Quote: Tigerade "LCC will make sure Newmarket doesn't happen.'"
You need to add "i hope" to that tigerade.
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| Quote: TrinitarianWF2 "Then you have nothing to worry about.
However I think you should keep in mind the "domino effect" that can occur when your nearest & dearest takes a step forward.
Cast your mind back to 07, when you were granted planning permission it cast huge doubts over our project, the added dimension of having another stadium (appear) to be built just around the corner makes a scheme with "hurdles" seem almost insurmountable. Fans jump on the "your screwed bandwagon", which leads to the media taking the same stance (as we all know how lazy some journalists are). Sponsors become harder to come by, players become reluctant to sign long deals- the problem is exasperated in many ways.
Before you know it the whole RL community is casting doubt over your viability as a SL club.
All of what you saw (and some reveled in) could very well happen to Castleford SHOULD Newmarket get the nod.
Quick question (& answer honestly) do you see 2 stadiums being built?
Most, myself included, have maintained that only 1 stadium will ever be built, would you say you subscribe to this notion?
Newmarket is far from sorted & has never been plain sailing, but as I see things there are a lot less problems to overcome.'"
I still maintain - and think - that both stadiums will be built. I have absolutely no worries regards Cas's. With Wakefield's the PI is the obstacle but even so, the future is very unclear after that. I think the Inspector will smack on an absolute load of conditions to any permissions and I think the project will have to be scaled down somewhat. Additionally, YCP said the stadium will be built for the next licensing period, which means they don't technically have to start building until 2014 (next licensing period is 2015-2017). I think the financials are also very unclear.
Newmarket getting built will have zero impact on Glasshoughton. We already have Full PP for a stadium and we have an asset that can still be sold.
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| Quote: Fully "
We already have Full PP for a stadium and we have an asset that can still be sold.'"
We just need some brass, then problem solved.
Come on opus pull your finger out.
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| Quote: TrinitarianWF2 "As other posters have said: Salford have a the trump card of being on the doorstep of the biggest city in northern England. While Manchester has NEVER got behind SCR (most RL fans I know in Manc support Wigan) the RFL will always be willing to persist with SCR in the hope they can "crack" the Manchester market.
Neither of us have his dispensation.
You can try to be as objective as you want Fully, you know as well as the rest of us- it's Wakefield or Castleford- one of us WILL go in 2015!
But if your so sure your stadium will be built in 2014 & ours will be rejected in March you have nothing to worry about! Just as I have nothing to worry about, as from my point of view you have no chance and we'll get the nod!
Is this G.P fan club in disguise?
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| Quote: duke street 10 "Is this G.P fan club in disguise?'"
Yes. Created a new account when everyone had a go at him for having a go at Mickey.
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| Quote: Fully "Yes. Created a new account when everyone had a go at him for having a go at Mickey.'"
Won't be long before he is giving somebody a patronising put down about their spelling....never apologised for it either did he?.
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: duke street 10 "Won' be long before he is giving somebody a patronising put down about their spelling....never apologised for it either did he?.'"
In his mind it was probably just easier to assume a new identity than be a man and apologise.
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| Quote: pyeman "In his mind it was probably just easier to assume a new identity than be a man and apologise.'"
Sorry really is a hard word for some to say eh?
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| Quote: duke street 10 "Sorry really is a hard word for some to say eh?
He changed it before that. He used to be called something else before G.Price's Fan Club. Sure if you trawl back far enough you'll find it.
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: Fully "He changed it before that. He used to be called something else before G.Price's Fan Club. Sure if you trawl back far enough you'll find it.'"
Sandal wildcat wasnt it?
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| Quote: pyeman "Sandal wildcat wasnt it?'"
I could think of a few names he could call himself next.
In my experiences (i have a close family relative with a disabitity)people are very quick to form opinions, and generally very quick to understand and apologise when explained to them the reasons why.
Says alot about Sandal Wildcat/Gary Price fan club/Trinitarian WF2 doesn't it?
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| Expect a new identity next week.....
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39793_1491679334.jpg "Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| Quote: Fully "Expect a new identity next week.....'"
Whatever happened to that well known Poundland van driver, Squire "Chissitt"?
Has he done a "Dr Who" also?
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| Quote: TrinitarianWF2 "Then you have nothing to worry about.
However I think you should keep in mind the "domino effect" that can occur when your nearest & dearest takes a step forward.
Cast your mind back to 07, when you were granted planning permission it cast huge doubts over our project, the added dimension of having another stadium (appear) to be built just around the corner makes a scheme with "hurdles" seem almost insurmountable. Fans jump on the "your screwed bandwagon", which leads to the media taking the same stance (as we all know how lazy some journalists are). Sponsors become harder to come by, players become reluctant to sign long deals- the problem is exasperated in many ways.
Before you know it the whole RL community is casting doubt over your viability as a SL club.
All of what you saw (and some reveled in) could very well happen to Castleford SHOULD Newmarket get the nod.
Quick question (& answer honestly) do you see 2 stadiums being built?
Most, myself included, have maintained that only 1 stadium will ever be built, would you say you subscribe to this notion?Newmarket is far from sorted & has never been plain sailing, but as I see things there are a lot less problems to overcome.'"
Not in time for the next license round. If by then one of us (I concede it looks more likely to be Wakey at present) at least has building underway the other will be praying for a miracle reprieve courtesy of other clubs self-destructing (a la Crusaders). In that situation Wakey, who have arguably passed through the last chance saloon already, would IMO be more vulnerable than Cas and less likely, if demoted, to fare well enough in the Championship to make a rapid return, regardless of whether NM later came to fruition.
Bottom line...only in something resembling the above scenario can I envisage 2 new stadia in WMDC and even then only one of them would be hosting SL fixtures.
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| Quote: Fully "I still maintain - and think - that both stadiums will be built. I have absolutely no worries regards Cas's. With Wakefield's the PI is the obstacle but even so, the future is very unclear after that. I think the Inspector will smack on an absolute load of conditions to any permissions and I think the project will have to be scaled down somewhat. Additionally, YCP said the stadium will be built for the next licensing period, which means they don't technically have to start building until 2014 (next licensing period is 2015-2017). I think the financials are also very unclear.
Newmarket getting built will have zero impact on Glasshoughton. We already have Full PP for a stadium and we have an asset that can still be sold.'"
Since you've offered your "thoughts" on NM, i just have one for you on GH.
If NM is passed and we've crossed all of your other obstacles, by the time Cas are in the position to start building GH, IS IT a POSSIBILITY that, what with the economic climate being what it is, the view on the need for two new stadia being built in the district may have changed?
What i am suggesting is that GHs FPP has been passed, but as yet that is based on no other stadia being built in the district at that time of being passed.
Due to NM going to PI, it cannot have been taken into consideration by the planners and should NM then pass the PI it would/could alter the horizon for GH.
So if NM goes through is it a possibility that in fact NM could have a lot more than zero impact on GH than you think.
FWIW i hope we are both in new stadia in plenty of time for the next round of franchises comes around, and someone else cops it or the league remains the same size or grows accordingly.
But we all know/assume, it doesn't work like that.
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