if rumours are to be believed your getting arundel back, which i think is a shame because imo could be a very good centre

Would rather have Ben Crooks.

Rather keep owen, he's rediscovrring his best form under powell

Thompson.

The futures bright for the black and whites, Richard Owen on one flank, liam colbon on the other. Suppose we will have to make do with Justin Carney.

think Arundel is what cas need to replace Jake Webster who is moving into the pack now so we still have 4 centres in our team. do not need 4 wingers because we have the likes of Gibson who can double up along with Tansey on winger an if we had Arundel he could cover wing as well.

So the Arundel - Owen swap would be good for Cas as well has Owen.

Wouldn't having Arundel back mean we would have 3 centres (Gibson,Arundel,Channing) that are near identical?.

I can only think this is happening because Owen is on a lot of money and we are freeing up some money to offer new or improve deals for others.

Ahh yes you mean Colbon who will be on his way at the end of the year. Lineham, Talanoa, Owen and Crookes as our four wingers is okay with me.

Next season

Shaul
Talanoa
Sa
Crooks
Lineham

Looks very exciting to me.

Its not just our youngsters/players Hull FC are after! Why don't they just do their own hard work instead of thinking they can just come and take what they want from us - they can feck off!

Houghton
Shaul
Crooks
Lineham
Hadley
Hodgson

All come through our ranks over the past few years. Houghton obviously a little longer.

Harry Tyson Wilson will be the best young half back in the league within a few years still only 17. Also have Reece Dean, Jansin Turgut, who are likely to make it pro soon enough.

I remember when Tommy Lee was coming through and Hull fans used to say he was going to be a future international too

On topic, is this just a runout or is there any substance in it ??? I find it a strange one with Owen playing his best stuff ever for us and Arundel won't be on peanuts at hull if we offered a deal and they offered more when he went.

What like Dorn, tansey, Dixon, carney, Webster, Channing, Gibson, Finn, Ellis, Sneyd, wheeldon, Hauraki, Millington and Marino?

Every club needs players from other places, no one can Rely fully on local players. After years of neglect by Hetherington and her team, we are finally getting our youth system in order and now it's up there with the best in SL.

In the last two years we have brought through Shaul, Crooks, Bodwen, Green, Cunningham and Hadley.

If you want to keep players, look after them, hopefully with what Powell is doing you won't lose your better young players anymore.

That'd be alright if you were making a good point. Except you don't. You've listed 14.

Shenton, Lynch, Milner, Huby, Massey, Clark, Boyle, Holmes, Owen, Clare, Fleming, Reynolds. That's 12 to your 14, almost 50% Cas academy.

You've just mentioned 9 in two posts (between you and the other OP), one of which rarely plays - if at all - (Cunningham), vis-à-vis Reynolds and one that doesn't play for you in Hodgson. If we're doing that, let's include:

Olivier Elima
Shaun Lunt
Ben Blackmore
Joe Westerman
Joe Arundel
Jordan Thompson
Liam Watts
Greg Eden
Jonathan Walker
Matty Dawson

So in the 7 years since Houghton made his debut you've produced 9 players?

Whilst a few of our players are outside this - Lynch, Huby, Elima, Lunt - in that time frame we've produced double the amount of players to play in Super League, not forgetting those in the Championships too. And a total of 22. Notwithstanding factors such as two relegations, lack of money, being at the wrong end of the table and 50% less support base.....catch my drift? To produce 22 Super League players, virtually a full squad, is testament to Cas's quality at producing players.

Sure we can't keep hold of them but that isn't necessarily down to will; there are many variable factors including money, which often come into play.

I don't think you was actually criticised about bringing players through, you bring through some fantastic players. Clark for a start. It was mentioned about us not bringing our own through. As Dave stated when Kath was incharge she didn't give a sh.t about our youth system. Lately we've brought through Bowden, Green, Crooks, Shaul, Hadley, Cunningham and Lyne (Wakefield). Not sure if Lineham can be counted. Before that Houghton, Hodgson, Hall. Not brilliant, but like I said since Kath has fec.ked off! It's got hell of a lot better.
I believe our 16s are top of the league and lost their first game of the season to Hull KR recently, although we were missing three players to the England squad.

Anyways, Owen. Won't happen imo and not overly d either.