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Quote: El Tigre "No-one likes a show-off.'"


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I buy one every year as soon as they come out. I always wear mine to a match. Its not about the players seeing the shirt, its about being proud to be associated with your club.
I don't mind advertising the sponsors, they have put money into something I enjoy, so I am happy to return the favour.

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You are a marketing mans wet dream.

You telling me that they could make the most minute change to the shirt from one season to the next yet you'd still spend £40+ every 12 months to show your pride?

Why not get a flag/banner made?

If 50 or so people had flags/banners and took them into the Princess St every home match surely that shows a greater sense of pride in your club? That you have taken the time and effort to do something that will have a far more inspirational influence on the players?

Never know, it might improve the atmosphere as well.

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Quote: El Tigre "You are a marketing mans wet dream.

You telling me that they could make the most minute change to the shirt from one season to the next yet you'd still spend £40+ every 12 months to show your pride?

Why not get a flag/banner made?

If 50 or so people had flags/banners and took them into the Princess St every home match surely that shows a greater sense of pride in your club? That you have taken the time and effort to do something that will have a far more inspirational influence on the players?

Never know, it might improve the atmosphere as well.'"


Making a flag or banner wouldn't put money in the club's coffers. Some may say that buying a match ticket is enough, but if we want the club to compete at the highest level, buying a club shirt which gives revenue to the club in sponsership as well as the RRP is a good way of helping us on our way there.

At the end of the day, those who don't buy shirts have the right not to, those who do want to buy the shirts do. I'm somewhere in between - I buy them now and again if I like them.

The joy is that we've all got our own preferences, but those criticising those who don't have the same preferences as them are the ones who need their heads testing

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I think it's a shame nobody bothers with flags these days. I remember not so long ago there used to be loads of them in the crowd.

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Would do in a round-about way. Improvement of atmosphere = attracting more paying fans through the gate.

I have some Puma gear and the quality of these products far out-weighs anything sold in the club shop and cost half the price. If the stuff the club sells was priced comparitively I wouldn't have a problem, but the mark up because of the club crest is outrageous and demonstrates the contempt with which we are thought of by those running the club.

The chopping & changing of kits and "leisurewear" every season is a p!ss take and serves only to alienate supporters who, over time, get more and more disillusioned with kit changes and 'fall out of love' with the club - this does happen.

RE - Flags

Take a look at the below and tell me Cas wouldn't benefit from something like this (minus the smoke, obviously)

ps - note the lack of replicas

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j6yWmzG ... re=related
Would do in a round-about way. Improvement of atmosphere = attracting more paying fans through the gate.

I have some Puma gear and the quality of these products far out-weighs anything sold in the club shop and cost half the price. If the stuff the club sells was priced comparitively I wouldn't have a problem, but the mark up because of the club crest is outrageous and demonstrates the contempt with which we are thought of by those running the club.

The chopping & changing of kits and "leisurewear" every season is a p!ss take and serves only to alienate supporters who, over time, get more and more disillusioned with kit changes and 'fall out of love' with the club - this does happen.

RE - Flags

Take a look at the below and tell me Cas wouldn't benefit from something like this (minus the smoke, obviously)

ps - note the lack of replicas

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j6yWmzG ... re=related


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Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see more flags at Cas - when the club sold them for a quid it was great to see so many around the ground...

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Quote: El Tigre "
Take a look at the below and tell me Cas wouldn't benefit from something like this (minus the smoke, obviously)

ps - note the lack of replicas


Yes. By definition, football casuals don't wear colours.

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Therefore their support is null and void?

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Quote: El Tigre "Take a look at the below and tell me Cas wouldn't benefit from something like this (minus the smoke, obviously)

ps - note the lack of replicas


I would love to see that sort of atmosphere, especially at away games. Constant singing and flags waving would look awesome. A huge flag like that might be a bit pricey though!

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Quote: El Tigre "Therefore their support is null and void?'"


No.

Just that as an argument: wearing colours is crap because these people who famously don't wear colours (originally to avoid the police) don't wear colours" is crap.

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Quote: tb "No.

Just that as an argument

I'm not saying that at all. The fact they aren't wearing replicas was a secondary point.

They might not be wearing colours but there is plenty of colour (demonstrating club loyalty) on the flags, and I think they'd struggle to avoid the police with those flags!

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Quote: El Tigre "I'm not saying that at all. The fact they aren't wearing replicas was a secondary point.

They might not be wearing colours but there is plenty of colour (demonstrating club loyalty) on the flags, and I think they'd struggle to avoid the police with those flags!'"


Fair point (and the thing about the police was just an aside to the original emergence of 'casuals' with groups like West Ham's ICF, in the bad old days of football hooliganism)

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Quote: El Tigre "Would do in a round-about way. Improvement of atmosphere The club needs revenue, they will do whatever they can to generate it, they are after all a business icon_eek.gif . I would hardly call changing the shirt once a year "contempt towards the fans". They don't force people to buy the bloody things.
I have put a lot of money into the club over the years not just through buying shirts and entry fees. But through sponsorship, and advertising the company I work for. Then people such as your good self can stand on the terraces, watching a half decent team,waving your little home made banner satisfied that you really have put the bare minimum into said team . But what would I know? I am just a marketing mans wet dream. Rather that than a tight c**t though! icon_biggrin.gif

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Didn't realise I had picked on a super-fan.

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So there are no other things the club can do to generate revenue other than changing the kit?

Kids want the new kits and pressurise parents to buy them. Parents make sacrifices to buy them (missing a few games) and then think "I haven't really missed that at all" and evetually stop going altogether.

Thus, if new kits were priced comparitively I wouldn't have a problem with them.

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