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| Quote: BOYD2 "I hear what you are saying pyeman but i still think he needs more time to build is own Squad, if Cas can keep Chase,Clarke,and all the other young Quality players that are coming through and add some experinced quality players to the squad Cas well be ok.'"
I appreciate you've got an outsiders point of view looking in at the club and an outsider that seems to wish us well which is always welcomed, i just cant see milward turning things around. I'm not really a negative guy but i've never felt this low being a cas supporter, even when we relegated, i had hope then but just cant see any positives with the way we are heading. I cant see clark, chase and the rest staying if millward does and that means we are right back to where we were in 2004 after all these years of building ourselves back up. i really do hope milward proves me wrong but i cant see it happening.
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| Quote: vegas3 "Matterson built that squad, offering contracts to those substandard players. Through loyalty alone They were always going to play for him. Wilward has come in and rocked the boat. Those players were on to a good thing and milward is making a lot of changes, With brand new idears and almost the full team out of contract, most of them know they will never put a cas shirt on again after 2012. Im Not suprised there is unrest in the dressing room. People need to get real, you cannot judge a coach under these circumstances.
This time next year if castleford are perfoming like second rate amatures i will be the first to stand on wheldon lane with the milward out sign, but until then i think we should give the man a chance..'"
In your opinion has milward brought anything positive to the club? I think massey has improved and our some of our back room staff have improved but cannot think of anything else whereas the negatives are there for all to see.
Other teams have new coaches come in and dont have these problems, if milward cant get the players to play for him that's his fault, its certainly not mattersons fault that millward cant get the players to play to there potential.
I think this time next year we will be just as bad and people will be saying that milward needs time to get the team to gel and its unfair to judge him till the 2014 season.
As i said on the above post i want to be proved wrong but i just cant see it.
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| Quote: BostonSpaTiger "I agree Pyeman. I would be more browned off if Clark goes than if Rangi does, but we will really struggle without both of them. I don't trust Millward one bit, and if they both go, fans will be completely gutted and walk away from the club (not me I hasten to add)!
Recruitment looks good so far for next season, but I think the players we have already signed will be the best ones, and that anybody else who signs will just be squad players. It doesn't really matter who is in the squad if Basil can't get them playing as a team.'"
100% agree
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| Pyeman, your not wrong in what you are saying, what you have stated, i have said myself on many occasion. My honest opinion on what i think milward has brought to cas! NOTHING!!! But my opinion isnt worth a great deal at the minute as i dont see what structures he has put in place for the coming seasons..Im looking and judging by on field displays which quite frankly have been woeful. But to be fair the team he has been left are poor at best..All im trying to say is maybe we should show a bit more patience, me included. I know thats hard being a cas fan cos all we seem to do is wait for something good to happen next season. I blame the board for that though..
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| I am watching a team that isn't bothered against Widnes tonight. You have some deep rooted problems at your club.
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| nobody has anything to play for, apart from winning pay.
Surprised it's currently 28-10, well done The Chemics !
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| Quote: maurice "I am watching a team that isn't bothered against Widnes tonight. You have some deep rooted problems at your club.'"
The problem has the nickname basil.
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| Quote: vegas3 "Pyeman, your not wrong in what you are saying, what you have stated, i have said myself on many occasion. My honest opinion on what i think milward has brought to cas! NOTHING!!! But my opinion isnt worth a great deal at the minute as i dont see what structures he has put in place for the coming seasons..Im looking and judging by on field displays which quite frankly have been woeful. But to be fair the team he has been left are poor at best..All im trying to say is maybe we should show a bit more patience, me included. I know thats hard being a cas fan cos all we seem to do is wait for something good to happen next season. I blame the board for that though..'"
Whilst i understand the point you are making, if this team was so poor was matterson some sort of super coach because he got them to play 10 times better than we have this season.
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| If your just coming on here to troll your going to be taking a break from posting on here, you have been warned
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| Castigersdave, Sunday June 24th:
"...we are playing so bad even Salford are doing better than us."
June 29th:
Salford 48 - 24 Warrington
July 2nd:
Widnes 40 - 10 Castleford
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| Quote: Derek Smalls "Castigersdave, Sunday June 24th:
"...we are playing so bad even Salford are doing better than us."
June 29th:
Salford 48 - 24 Warrington
Haven't you just pointed out he was right?
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| Kinda disrespectful to Salford though, wouldn't you agree?
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| Quote: Derek Smalls "Kinda disrespectful to Salford though, wouldn't you agree?'"
I would.
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| Quote: pyeman "Whilst i understand the point you are making, if this team was so poor was matterson some sort of super coach because he got them to play 10 times better than we have this season.'"
I seem to recall arguing with the majority who didn't think TM was even a half decent coach.....he must be truly gratified by the recent upsurge in his popularity. He might also remind us of his belief that he had taken us as far as he could (euphamism for getting out while the going was relatively good) and that this years squad, while smaller than ever, includes half a dozen probably playing at least one season too far.
That's not to say IM is a good/bad coach but that anyone thinking our problems can be attributed purely to him is sadly mistaken.
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| Quote: smoking monkey "I seem to recall arguing with the majority who didn't think TM was even a half decent coach.....he must be truly gratified by the recent upsurge in his popularity. He might also remind us of his belief that he had taken us as far as he could (euphamism for getting out while the going was relatively good) and that this years squad, while smaller than ever, includes half a dozen probably playing at least one season too far.
That's not to say IM is a good/bad coach but that anyone thinking our problems can be attributed purely to him is sadly mistaken.'"
I too thought matterson was under valued, siad two things at the end of last season, people who had a go at matterson would want him back and milward would take us backwards, both turned out to be true.
With amount of fans i have heard saying they are giving up/wont get a season ticket next year, we will have an even smaller squad next year (or go bust).
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