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Quote: ParanoidAndroid "Others may have gone because they were offered more money, felt their careers lie elsewhere, they weren't developing quickly enough etc. Loyalty to your hometown club is a rare commodity these days, money talks and I would much rather have a stable financial footing than be held to ransom by some POTENTIAL 'star' in the making.'"


OK, so there we have a reason for not paying young players (whom we have already invested in) to stay with us. A stable financial footing. Is this the case? We have no idea!

All most of the fans are asking on here is why our youngsters are going elsewhere, and at the same time we are loaning equivalent players from clubs like the Goons and Wire. The fans should be told why the club is doing this-not too much to ask surely icon_confused.gif:

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Quote: Bonzo "It was interesting that they mentioned on Radio Leeds on Sunday that there's genuine frustration amongst the Cas fans at the moment at the fact that young players are not being given opportunities in the first team, despite there being several successes with blooding them in the last couple of years.

For some reason this gravy train seems to have come shuddering to a halt but there's no obvious reason why. If we have so many good young players
, why do we have such a thin squad that we have to loan from other clubs? Is that they're deemed not ready? Is that they're deemed not good enough? If they're not ready, then what are the coaching staff doing to get them ready and to prevent them from upping sticks. If they're not good enough then why are they here in the first place?'"

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I posted this on the casforum web site

Having followed the club since the sixties this latest 'signing' (sic) really, really takes the biscuit.

The development team and all the hangers-on (won't mention names) should hand their heads in shame.

This district is rich in rugby talent which begs the question why oh why aren't we now unearthing the next generation of Shentons, Westermans etc, stagnate, sit our your laurels, pat yourself on the back for unearthing JW RO, and we die.

The loaning of other teams 'surplus' players because we do not apparently have any suitable players is wake up call to these so-called development teams.
I did not agree with the abandoning of U18 and U21 as it gives a gradual foretaste for kids the demands of SL, as mentioned here some of the U20's are not ready for SL, but it begs the question DO we have suitable potential comming through the system .......in view of TM's latest master stroke apparently not.

Why have potentially good young kids left the club, not been identified or dropped out of the game, some names of CAS youngsters who are plying their trade at other clubs and have been spurned by the club, ie. Kyle Wood, Larne Patrick, Tom Burton etc,etc all these were EXCEPTIONALLY good youngsters who for one reason or another did not sign pro forms for us.
Why, ask the development team......false promises, favouritism of certain idividuals, cannot see the Wood (sorry) for the trees and so on ( D Wood was dead keen to sign KW, and said so at player presentation evening at Lock Lane).

The Ryan Boyle saga is an absolute classic, I know we should move on, but in view of the recent events it was on the cards that this decision of TM/Who ever/RW was always going to bite us on the 'arris.

It's easy to bag people when things are not working to plan but with a coach reluctant, in most cases, give or identify potential players, the Gledhill saga is another that springs to mind, it is no wonder that the loyal supporters are questioning the sanity of ther powers that be at WR

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The thing that riles me is the amount of players playing out of position

McGoldrick on Sunday played Full back, but filled in at hooker, half back and loose forward!!

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Quote: casman2 "The thing that riles me is the amount of players playing out of position

McGoldrick on Sunday played Full back, but filled in at hooker, half back and loose forward!!'"


Don't even get me started on that... icon_evil.gif

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we need a half back on loan? to cover sherwin or help him whos available?
or we go to the championship-

danny jones at the cougers aint bad

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I seem to recall many moons ago that Jermaine Wray played for Cas? he's inspiring Keighley at the moment

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Quote: casman2 "I seem to recall many moons ago that Jermaine Wray played for Cas? he's inspiring Keighley at the moment'"


Another name, christ the list is endless!!!!! I remember Jermaine in the Academy set up at Cas, he was a quality player no doubt. Letting talent go to waste isn't a new thing for our club is it? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Chris Tuson was part of a Wigan U20 pack last season that went through the season with only one defeat. They won the Grand Final at a canter.

The pack was
Neil Holland - now on dual registration at Blackpool
Sam Gee - now at Wigan Rugby Union (a snip for anyone who needs a hooker)
Ben Davies - now on dual registration at Widnes
Liam Farrell - now on dual registration at Widnes
Chris Tuson - now with yourselves
Mark Flanagan - Just played a full 80 at West Tigers in Aus.
Add to that Chris Gerrard now signed full time at Widnes

You can probably see why clubs wanted these players.

There's a frightening amount of talent at Wigan at the moment and we won't be able to keep them all.
Ainscough, Charnley, Marsh, Thornley and Mellor to name but a few.

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again cas show there faith in there youngsters, as for gleds he wanted to better hiself,

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Quote: magic millard "again cas show there faith in there youngsters, as for gleds he wanted to better hiself,'"


You can tell the wakey game is next week can't you icon_rolleyes.gif

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As mentioned on the Wigan board, I wouldn't be suprised if this is a trial and then maybe an offer for Tuson plus cash and maybe another player for Michael Shenton.

He seems to be strongly linked with us at the moment as a replacement for George Carmont.

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Quote: ABP' "As mentioned on the Wigan board, I wouldn't be suprised if this is a trial and then maybe an offer for Tuson plus cash and maybe another player for Michael Shenton.

He seems to be strongly linked with us at the moment as a replacement for George Carmont.'"


Cas players don't have a good track record when they go to Wigan. Tony Smith, Danny Orr were both awesome at Cas but very average when they moved to Wigan. Big Fish small pond and all that.

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Quote: who needs flankers? "Cas players don't have a good track record when they go to Wigan. Tony Smith, Danny Orr were both awesome at Cas but very average when they moved to Wigan. Big Fish small pond and all that.'"


Dont forget Wayne Godwin as well

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Quote: casman2 "Dont forget Wayne Godwin as well'"


I'd love to see Godwin back at Cas someday.

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Quote: casman2 "Dont forget Wayne Godwin as well'"


Wagga played really well for us, but Ian Millward ballsed up when he signed Micky Higham.

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