There's a big difference taking a 'mark' in the 22 or a long punt downfield and fielded a cross-fieldbomb in the face of an onrushing attack.

Knowing Cas though, they will throw in the high bomb to Thomas, who as a Union player should be used to this week in week out, because thats pretty much all they ever seem to do in the game.

Yes, but they also never had two or three players challenging for the same ball

I might be missing something but as far as I can see there's no thread discussing the game itself! If indeed I've missed a glaring obvious thread, feel free to ridicule at will!

I went to the game much more nervous than I did 5 days ago for the Wigan game, the obvious reason being that this was a game we really should be looking to win but equally I was well aware that Crusaders have proved themselves to be no easybeats this year.

Anyway, the good news - we won and have moved above Crusaders into 10th position on the table, level on points with last years champions, the not so mighty Rhinos!

Apart from that I'm struggling to find a great deal to be positive about. I accept that Crusaders are a solid side but on last nights performance I can't fathom how they ran Saints so close a few weeks ago!

The thing I find most disappointing is the lack of spark we seem to have in attack. When we played Hull KR we showed lots of attacking verve and created numerous scoring opportunities. Had we taken only a small fraction of them we'd have had the game sown up before Mr Ganson's ludicrous decision gifted Hull KR the game.

However, in the last 2 home games we've shown no creativity whatsoever and are a really dull side to watch.

Whilst I came away from the game relieved of the win the overall feeling was "that's 90 mins of my life I'll never get back"! I'm just relieved a TV audience wasn't subjected to seeing how dull we've become...

I thought we were very poor. We lacked idea's at times, as a result we looked flat in attack. One plus is we looked good when defending our line. But other than that there was little to take from the game.

I think Shifty isn't a fraction of the player he was when he signed for us. I have put my thoughts on Clayton on another thread.

The best player on the field by a country mile was Rangi, so naturally we gave the MOM to Westerman.

McGoldrick didn't play too badly either.

Agreed. A win's a win, but the style of play is so dull.

I've been watching Cas for 30 years and can rarely remember being so bored as at the last two games. It's all one out rugby, no off-loads and no width until we get within 30 metres of the line. I know we've got injuries and new faces in the squad, but for £18 we surely deserve to see more enterprise. We've always been good to watch at Cas, but at the moment even two episodes of Coronation Street is starting to have some appeal.

Does this mean after all these years of tedious boasts, we can finally ditch that most ridiculous tag of "Class Cas"..please let it be so. Hopefully it's the last we hear of Matterson talking balls about been the Harlem Globetrotters of Rugby League.

I've never seen so many people on there mobiles or chatting to one another at last nights game. That goes to show how boring the game was.

From minute one to minute 80 it was the same moves and same plays.
We lack confidence meaning we are playing in our shell.
Not sure how we are gonna change it, our next 3 games wakey/saints/hudds are gonna be very tough, cant see us gettig anything from any of them.

How did Thomas fair last night? unfortunately i couldn't make the game.

He had a few songs sang to him .

Did'nt really do a great deal tbh, drove the ball in a couple of times thats about it.

Perhaps our inhibited play these last two games has been down to the pressure of not having won at home for so long.

no sorry i cant buy into that i think its just a case of this is the worst cas team that i have seen for donkeys years even worse than the first side that got relegated (with the exception of about 5 or 6 players) and the stlye of coaching is on par with the team, we have had matterson now for 4 years and he is no closer to sorting out our defence now than he was when he first arrived, our only move as such is to continually give the short back on the inside pass and to be honest it has all now got really old hat and boring. I am not one who is calling to get rid of the coach so please dont get me wrong on that as i know that if we did andy hay would probbablly get the job as we have clearly shown as a club that we have no ambition to improve, this was done at the start of the season when mr wright told us all that we had over achieved or in other words get ready for a long season because this side is not as good as last years and lets be honest last years while doing a good job was no great shakes. so i think unless some cas fan wins the lottery in the near future and can force his way onto the board the future of the once classy cas looks very bleak. but on the other hand we may win one of our games over easter and everyone will forget how disjointed and sometimes ugly we have been in our play upto press this season but i am sure if that does happen it wont be too long before we take another nose dive.