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Quote: danny boy1 "We can't blame Sione for what happened to Joe, he didn't have a good game but then neither did the majority of our other players.
I wish our vocal minority would get off his back and get behind him!
While ever he's a Cas player we should be cheering him on, making him proud to be pulling on the famous black and amber shirt!'"

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Quote: poppys mum "Did you see the way he just flung the ball anywhere, he saw the defence coming up to tackle him and just throw the ball away.
Joe had to rectify the situation and was hit with out the ball.
Sione wants to have some guts and take the ball in himself not throw it anywhere when he see's the defence infront of him.'"


Are you seriously suggesting that Sione's failed offloads are responsible for Joe's injury? icon_rolleyes.gif Get a grip.

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Quote: danny boy1 "We can't blame Sione for what happened to Joe, he didn't have a good game but then neither did the majority of our other players.
I wish our vocal minority would get off his back and get behind him!
While ever he's a Cas player we should be cheering him on, making him proud to be pulling on the famous black and amber shirt!

I really do believe Sione will come good for us, it really does remind me of a similar situation with Vowlesy, he was given loads of stick by sections of our support as he struggled at first with us, but he went on to become a legend and there's every possibility that Sione could do the same. Maybe to compare him with Nikau was wrong, but when I first saw him pull on a Cas shirt, that's who he reminded me of, he looked the part then and I'm sure he can again, he just needs his confidence back and we should get behind him to try help encourage him!

There's no way Sione can be put in the same category as Rudder (stand off) who was made to look good in Oz because at that time he was playing alongside one of the best scrum halves in the game, whoever brought him over here didn't do their homework on Mr Rudder.'"


Nice to see a few fans understand and appreciate the situation.

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Quote: danny boy1 "Whilst I agree he hasn't yet played to his full potential, I don't think he deserves some of the criticism he's been getting, I honestly think there are times when he tries too hard - seems as though he's trying to create something special every time he gets the ball. I think we will see the best of him now the grounds are getting harder, I want to see him running out wide, not barging up the middle, reckon he could be devastating, his defence has definitely been ok though, some of his bone crushing big hits have been awesome!
Let's get behind Sione instead of knocking him, I'm sure it will make a difference to him, just look at Rangi Chase now he's playing with confidence.'"



I agree, the criticism is sometimes pushed to the limits, like fans cheering when he's substituted and booing him off, these things are gunna do nothing for his confidence

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Quote: poppys mum "Did you see the way he just flung the ball anywhere, he saw the defence coming up to tackle him and just throw the ball away.
Joe had to rectify the situation and was hit with out the ball.
Sione wants to have some guts and take the ball in himself not throw it anywhere when he see's the defence infront of him.'"


I think you have it wrong there, he didn't fling the ball because of a lack of guts, he does it because he's the type of player who likes to keep the ball alive.!
He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.

Put Sione in a team like the Saints and he would look much more impressive, as other players would support him when he had the ball, they throw passes out seemingly willy nilly but because they support the man with the ball better than we do, the ball tends to stick. Did you see how Sean Long squirmed a pass out to no one, yet because of the backing up Saints were able to make something of it.

I'm not saying Sione's right throwing passes out every time that he does, but that is his style of play ...and whilst he should be more selective with his passing, our guys should support him (and others) better than they are and then we might reap the rewards that seem to come all too often to St. Helens.

But to get back to your point PM, he threw out a pass because he quite rightly thought there was something on, not because of a lack of bottle but unfortunately the pass wasn't executed as well as it could have been and the move came to nought.

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Quote: danny boy1 "I think you have it wrong there, he didn't fling the ball because of a lack of guts, he does it because he's the type of player who likes to keep the ball alive.!
He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.

Put Sione in a team like the Saints and he would look much more impressive, as other players would support him when he had the ball, they throw passes out seemingly willy nilly but because they support the man with the ball better than we do, the ball tends to stick. Did you see how Sean Long squirmed a pass out to no one, yet because of the backing up Saints were able to make something of it.

I'm not saying Sione's right throwing passes out every time that he does, but that is his style of play ...and whilst he should be more selective with his passing, our guys should support him (and others) better than they are and then we might reap the rewards that seem to come all too often to St. Helens.

But to get back to your point PM, he threw out a pass because he quite rightly thought there was something on, not because of a lack of bottle but unfortunately the pass wasn't executed as well as it could have been and the move came to nought.'"


he needs to be able to catch the ball befoe he even thinks about passing it!

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Quote: lbennett "I agree, the criticism is sometimes pushed to the limits, like fans cheering when he's substituted and booing him off, these things are gunna do nothing for his confidence

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Quote: ParanoidAndroid "Are you seriously suggesting that Sione's failed offloads are responsible for Joe's injury?
No i did'nt say it was sione's fault.
I said joe had to rectify or try to rectify a stupid pass from sione.

I dont need to get a grip i'm quite level headed thanks icon_wink.gif

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The Injury was a pure accident But I do have to say says it all when we was taken off after 7 minutes.

Matterson said some of the guys are gona be under the pump this week he has to be one.

I would bench him for this week and let him know he gotta up his game to get back in. Injuries permitting of course.

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He's lucky there's a load of injuries otherwise he would be lucky to make the bench the way he's been playing, Widders (in the limited game time he's got so far) has looked better, Jones & Ferres are no brainers, as is Westerman - that really leaves no room for Faumuina, a week or 2 in the reserves would probably be the kick up the jacksy he needs too.

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Quote: playdaball "that should read boot'"


that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever read in line with what has happened over the last twelve months.....warrants a ban from the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Quote: mirfieldcat "that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever read in line with what has happened over the last twelve months.....warrants a ban from the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1'"

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Quote: danny boy1 "He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.


Now I've read it all. Guts? You've got to be kidding icon_exclaim.gif

The very first minute of Sundays game showed the level of guts, looking at the defence coming to tackle him instead of the ball-sums his season up.

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Quote: Tigerpie "He's got loads of guts, just take a look at his big hits, anyone without guts wouldn't attempt such a tackle.


Now I've read it all. Guts? You've got to be kidding 3.443359375:5
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