Paul Newlove
Botica (broke his leg)
Sherwin
Ryan Sherridan

those are at the top of my head

But does that not happen at other clubs?

ie saints
sculthorpe
long
cayless

And over a much shorter time period.

Wow, 4 players, we truly do have a reputation for signing players that get injured, sack the BoD. We are no better or no worse than other clubs.

What about all the players we have signed and have been relatively injury free? Care to compile a list of those?

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Was on a match fee only (ie pay as you play) deal iirc
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Was on crutches when we signed him, but had a good season, I seem to recall


Was there a good signing in that 2004 squad? And let's be fair: who of us can predict a season-ending shoulder injury?

We tend to sign players who are overrated, Sherwin is one of them. Add his injury prone ways then, i'd get rid today. He is too inconsistent with his play for me, he will either win the game for us or lose it.

No

over rated when he is on the pitch he the best player in the side by a country mile

Best at what exactly? Kicking straight into touch-yes, kicking the ball dead in goal-yes oh, and throwing the intercept pass-joint best with Goldy

No the things he does more often like set up try after try, despite not playing every game last season he was 3rd for try assists. If you havent noticed this, do you actually watch the games or just read the league express?

Idiot, There are many of the top half backs in this league that would never have achieved what he did down under, So dont come the over-rated - The problem is we signed him 3 years too late

As for the comment, When he is on the field he is our best player by a country mile, And one of the bes players in the league. He orchestrates everything we do and has a hand in at least half of the tries we score, You ask any Cas player who they rate the highest in the side and if Shifty has played, They will say him - He is a top class player, Who happens to be nearing the end of his career, And you cant class a broken foot as injury prone IMO -- Broken bones could happen to anyone at any time

I wouldn't read that sh*te if you payed me. As for watching, you have an 150 mile trip for a home match do you? I still get to 80% of games home and away. Try assists are one stat -do you look at anything else he does?

I do watch everything he does and he does make mistakes same as every other player in the league, he is a 7, his job is to organise the team and set up tries, he does this superbly when he was fit we won the majority of our games, when he hasnt been fit we havent.

Oh dear, name calling, is that allowed on here?
Agreed, he was a good player in Aus, and we did d sign him 3 years too late, so you agree, we have paid for a top dollar Aussie with a big reputation that since he joined us he has failed by and large, to deliver.

He does do some good stuff, he also does some shocking stuff, maybe asked to do much? As for injury prone, whether he injures a different part of his anatomy every season it still counts as injury prone. Can't class a broken bone in his foot as an injury...you are having a laugh my friend



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Sherwin is a really good player, possible the best we have at the mo, but the fact remains he is very injury prone. But surely to release him we would have to pay off the rest of his contract, so there's nothing gained from releasing him.

Not convinced by the number of games we've won with Shifty fit theory, we're not doing too bad at the moment are we? Once TM stopped messing about with Sione in the halves we've done pretty well. I'd also point out how we finished the season last year without Shifty.

As for his mistakes, the most infuriating thing for me is putting too much weight on the grubber time and time again. This has been the case for 2 seasons, wasting chances and repeat sets far too much.

Just my view

As soon as he was injured we lost 5 straight games.
I'm not saying we can't play without him, as we've proven over the last 6 games but we look a stronger side with him.

Prior to his injury this season Shifty was the best player in the Cas side more often than not. Since he got injured the same could be said about Chase.

I don't think this illustrates that Chase has stepped out of Sherwin'shadow, rather that Chase has improved immeasurably having got more used to his teammates and possibly with the increased responsibility.

If both players had an extended run in the side together I'm confident we would be a markedly better side.

I'm not convinced there's a player available to replace him who's as good and even if we find someone with a previously unblemished injury record there's no guarantee they won't pick up a broken foot or something similar.

Think this is the main point, who on earth would you replace him with who is OOC ???? it took us nearly a year of looking to find Brough in 2006. Start looking now for a 7 in 2011 and under no circumstances renew his contract..... you could have joey johns in his prime but if he isnt fit on a REGULAR basis then whats the point ???? Sherwin is class at SL level but he hasnt played enough games for us !!!!

Exactly my thoughts, Start negotiations with a 7 from the Nrl, Who is 23/24 - And get them signed up for the 2011 season. Spend more time searching for the right man, And be prepared to pay for the right man

That would mean letting either chase or sargent go though, two players i'm keen to keep for as long as possible.

I agree with that

Would hate to lose those two, they have been our stand out players this season

I don't think this illustrates that Chase has stepped out of Sherwin'shadow, rather that Chase has improved immeasurably having got more used to his teammates and possibly with the increased responsibility.

Maybe because he's been moved from hooker like I said quite a while ago, but Poker Face seemed to think that people were 'clowns' for stating this.

For what it's worse, Sherwin is class when on form but we signed him on too long a contract and I personally would look at what options are open to us in regards to early release.

For those who've spent time with Shifty, he's a real decent guy and he has come good at some key times for the club.

However it is difficult to see him as anything other than a passenger from here on. If we were a cash rich club, and he had a couple more playing years left in him... then by all means keep him on.

However, we don't have the spare cash...and he doesn't have a couple more years in him...so sadly, with the greatest of respect to Shifty it's time to let him go!

Most people are saying keep him, the rest get rid. I feel Shifty will decide that he as had enough time at Cas and return home.

He's not had much luck with injuries as well.