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| Quote jimlav="jimlav"Love it how all the Cas fans are coming out of the woodwork to say how this is the worst thing to happen to rugby league, whilst forgetting all the other players from other clubs who have walked out.
Also all the players from other clubs who have moved to union/nrl for nothing/next to nothing. As a whole they defend the salary cap to the hill. You reap what you sow.
Lawyers now involved. Would love to see a legal case involving players, challenging the right for owners of rugby clubs to discuss and vote on the suppression of wages in the industry. Cannot see how it is legal for owners to collude in this way to keep wages low, any other industry in which all the bosses got together and agreed to not raise the wages for ~20 years (not even in line with inflation) would be found to be illegal.'"
Happens all the time in the public sector. The government (effectively) decides the salary level of every public sector employee. Many have been frozen for years.
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| Quote Trainman="Trainman"I would have thought as a minimum Denny would have to buy out the remainder of his contract. I'm not an expert in employment law however I know that my job has a 12 week notice period. If I decided to walk out tomorrow my employers can sue me for the value of 12 weeks wages. I'd assume that is similar to his contract. I believe he had 2 years left so to buy it out would cost 2 years wages with Cas holding his RL registration for the next 2 years.'"
Yep. He can't just walk away from his contract without Cas agreeing.
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| Quote bentleberry="bentleberry"The only difference is the kind nature of Derek Beaumont, if Gill decides to release Solomon's registration then it would be almost exactly the same situation'"
Solomona had 2 years left to run on his contract. Cas Tigers have had 3 offers (all rejected) and have said he is not for sale. Why would Gill decide to release his registration ? There is no comparison whatsoever in the two cases.
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| I suspect this case may be resolved quickly, with Cas being scared off a long legal persuit and agreeing to Sale's terms. If not, it's a case that could have enormous ramifications for professional sport in this country. For me, the issue isn't Solomona singing for or playing for Sale, it's him reneging on a legally binding contract with Cas. I'd suspect the legal action will have to be Cas against Solomona rather than Cas against Sale.
If Solomona is able to just walk away from one professional sports contract and take another, I cannot see why a football player couldn't. You could end up with all professional sports contracts being pay as you play, with players moving freely between teams. As with the salary cap, any governing body rules to prevent it could easily be overcome legally as a restriction of trade.
Of course, I might not be right with any of that.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I suspect this case may be resolved quickly, with Cas being scared off a long legal persuit and agreeing to Sale's terms. If not, it's a case that could have enormous ramifications for professional sport in this country. For me, the issue isn't Solomona singing for or playing for Sale, it's him reneging on a legally binding contract with Cas. I'd suspect the legal action will have to be Cas against Solomona rather than Cas against Sale.
If Solomona is able to just walk away from one professional sports contract and take another, I cannot see why a football player couldn't. You could end up with all professional sports contracts being pay as you play, with players moving freely between teams. As with the salary cap, any governing body rules to prevent it could easily be overcome legally as a restriction of trade.
Of course, I might not be right with any of that.'"
The problem with the Solomona case, compared with say, football, is that, a footballer couldn't go an play basketball or rugby etc.
However the skill set between League and Union is pretty transferable.
I dont think that any other sport would have this issue but,you would think that Cas have some kind of case against the player, rather than Sale.
However, you would also expect the player to have been receiving some "advice" from somewhere.
The average person wouldn't just walk away from a contract and expect no kind of "cost".
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"However, you would also expect the player to have been receiving some "advice" from somewhere.
The average person wouldn't just walk away from a contract and expect no kind of "cost".'"
I don't know who DS agent is but I would imagine the "advice" came from him.
Heard a couple of advancements today. The RFL are now involved with the case and CTRLFC have suspended DS for missing training.
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| In law a third party can be sued for encouraging a breach of contract between two other parties. Also, despite the 'nicety' of Union and League being different sports, judges are not fools, and I don't think that a judge would be willing to allow such a literal interpretation in the case of employment law.
All in all, though, Cas should try to settle out of court. As others have said, though it's always shocking when a player refuses to honour a contract, he can't be forced to play, or at least to play well, so its a no-win situation.
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| Quote Asgardian13="Asgardian13"In law a third party can be sued for encouraging a breach of contract between two other parties. Also, despite the 'nicety' of Union and League being different sports, judges are not fools, and I don't think that a judge would be willing to allow such a literal interpretation in the case of employment law.
All in all, though, Cas should try to settle out of court. As others have said, though it's always shocking when a player refuses to honour a contract, he can't be forced to play, or at least to play well, so its a no-win situation.'"
We could take him out?
Kidnapp his Mrs?
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| Whilst the financial clout is with RU, I would also doubt whether that sport (or Sale) would want a precedent to be set in this regard either.
Also, as some have said, the mere fact that Solomona would be employed in the same role in another sport would suggest that they are close enough to be counted as the same in a professional sense. This isn't a doctor deciding to become a lawyer overnight.
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| Cas were offered £300k for Denny Solomona and didn't take it?!
Sorry but Denny is a good finisher who benefited from the expansive rugby Cas played last year. He's not worth that.
Cas should have taken the money and bought a superstar with it.
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| This is what we get when we have a nearly quarter of a century old Salary Cap. The Cap needs upping! We're treading water as a league because the Cap is so out of date.
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| Quote Psychedelic Casual="Psychedelic Casual"This is what we get when we have a nearly quarter of a century old Salary Cap. The Cap needs upping! We're treading water as a league because the Cap is so out of date.'"
Only recently have most clubs started spending at or near the full cap. And it's not like the clubs are ploughing money into other areas like marketing or youth production. The salary cap is a red herring. The issue is revenue.
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