I think he could be blamed for one, They were already short, And he shot out

But for my reckoning, The second row was more to blame than Joe

I know. If he doesnt make it to the International stage, It wont be because of lack of dedication off the field

Thats who TM blamed Trust me

McGoldrick should be 18th man. Surplus to requirements until we get an injury.

Like others have mentioned. I wouldn't leave him out of 17 as he can cover all over park.

He is very versatile and can be destructive in attack when he's on his game. Unfortunately his defence can be a real weak link - the first thing that happened after he came on last week was Hull scoring where he was covering.

For once we have a number of options/permutations, especially on the interchange, and I'm not sure yet which are likely to work best against any given opposition. The one thing about which I am clear is that we must have an hooker among the subs and refrain from either misusing Jones there or disrupting our shape by switching Chase/Orr. So if Milner is fit he must be on the bench as far as I'm concerned. For balance and fitness/ favouritism aside we should look something like this:

Mathers
Youngquest
Arundel
Isa
Dixon
Chase
Orr
Fozzard
Hudson
Huby
Snitch
Ferres
Aspinwall

Milner plus 3 from
Walker/Emmett/McGoldrick/Jackson/Widders (probably in that order)

mcgoldrick will play all season if he is fit , regardless of form. TM will not have the balls the drop him mainly due to his massive salary .

McGoldrick could be out for the season and is likely to miss this weekend through injury. This is due to a flare-up to a knee injury that happened last season and he has played with. Should it not clear up, he may require surgery.

For me if Widders is fit hes got to play,

1. Mathers
2. Dixon
3. Arundel
4. Isa
5.Yougquest

6. Chase
7. Orr

8. Fozzard
9. Hudson
10. Huby
11. Aspinwall
12. Snitch
13. Ferres

14. Milner
15. Jackson
16. Widders
17. McGoldrick/Emmett

We should go with a big but mobile pack as Wakeys dont have the biggest pack, if we win the forwards battle we could put a score on them. But i expect it to be close.

No space for Jones this week unfortunately but it nice to have a bit of competition for places for once.

can tell you now isa is not in team and aspinall will miss this one because of suspect defense

Did i hear that from the horses mouth?

This would be the suspect defence that TM has praised every time he mentions Aspinwall.

I can see both missing out but Apsinwall has anything but a suspect defence. He is probably quite a bit underdone coming back from his injury.

wen does richie owen come back?

He may play tomorrow at BV with the under 20's, 7.30pm.

Not been able to get confirmation though.