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| I'd say that's your "acid test" of WMDC intentions.
If they extend the OPP of the Aire St site then IMO that makes a bold statement of their preference.
If OPP has been granted previously it would be hard to see why it wouldn't be renewed.
Alf/Fully: Do you know which developer is behind Aire St? To the best of your knowledge are Opus behind any of the other sites? Just wondered in relation to land banks they may have in/around Castleford.
These could be a testing few months & I wish you all the best, just as I hope you'll offer a similar gesture when we're going into battle in December.
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| Quote: G.Price Fan Club "If OPP has been granted previously it would be hard to see why it wouldn't be renewed.
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The OPP will be renewed for Aire Street no doubt.
The developer of Aire Street is the same developer of Carlton lanes who also have permission to extend Carlton Lanes to cover most of the car park.
That may be why the manager of Carlton Lanes was predicting the death of the town centre in the "Cas and Pont" this week if WR was given the go ahead.
No self interest there like.
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| See that wasn't so hard was it?
Rational question followed by a rational response! Could this be the start of a civil conversation??
As far as self serving interests go, that's usually the case.
We'll just have to hope that this will be seen in the planning process for what it is. Put it this way, if it ever did go to a PI objections coming from someone like that would be hung out to dry during cross sectioning.
All will come good in the end I have no doubt, I just think the timescales are a potential problem- far from impossible though.
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| Quote: G.Price Fan Club "See that wasn't so hard was it?
Rational question followed by a rational response! Could this be the start of a civil conversation??'"
Rational and Civil - That's me !
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| Quote: G.Price Fan Club "I'd say that's your "acid test" of WMDC intentions.
If they extend the OPP of the Aire St site then IMO that makes a bold statement of their preference.
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No it doesn't. It just means it complies with National Planning Laws and they've paid the necessary fee to retain Planning.
I could have planning permission for an extra large shed in my background and keep renewing it every three years; it doesn't mean the Council want it there!
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| The Aire Street site was applied for in 2006 and it took until 2009 to sign a 106 agreement for the approval.
This has now been applied for renewal without any changes to the "Grand" scheme.
The bridge Street site was approved in 2006 and was renewed in 2010 minus the Hotel part of the development.
There is obviously an interest from some company or companies to locate a "Supermarket" at this side of the town.
The location (Aire Street or WR) may come down to the need for such a development (Which everyone seems to agree there is) and which location is best in terms of planning, the cost and speed of delivery to the mystery retailer.
If I was the retailer I know which site I would be pushing for.
IMHO!
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| Quote: Fully "No it doesn't. It just means it complies with National Planning Laws and they've paid the necessary fee to retain Planning.
I could have planning permission for an extra large shed in my background and keep renewing it every three years; it doesn't mean the Council want it there!'"
Yes it does, you've just shot yourself in the foot there matey.
Why would the council approve something they didn't want?
When you get PLANNING PERMISSION your getting PERMISSION to build, the clue is in the name!
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I could have planning permission for an extra large shed in my background and keep renewing it every three years; it doesn't mean I could afford to build it'"
Edited for accuracy in relation to GH.
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| Quote: G.Price Fan Club "
Why would the council approve something they didn't want?
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Semantics here but what do you mean by WANT? The council can't approve or disapprove on a whim - whether they "want" it or not, any decision has to be made with consultation of the law. Planning committees sometimes "want" to do things or don't "want" things to happen but in the end their decisions are overturned by higher authorities, due to legal matters that are out of their hands.
Whether the council feels that one site or another is better for a supermarket doesn't actually mean to say that PP will or will not be given or renewed.
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| Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "Semantics here but what do you mean by WANT? The council can't approve or disapprove on a whim - whether they "want" it or not, any decision has to be made with consultation of the law. Planning committees sometimes "want" to do things or don't "want" things to happen but in the end their decisions are overturned by higher authorities, due to legal matters that are out of their hands.
Whether the council feels that one site or another is better for a supermarket doesn't actually mean to say that PP will or will not be given or renewed.'"
Not got the time today Georgie.
If your so confident then good for you. You've obviously got nothing to worry about in the next 12 months.
Happy days.
Although I do think you (& others) being a large flightless bird who likes to dip his head in the sand!
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| Quote: G.Price Fan Club "Yes it does, you've just shot yourself in the foot there matey.
Why would the council approve something they didn't want?
When you get PLANNING PERMISSION your getting PERMISSION to build, the clue is in the name!
Edited for accuracy in relation to GH.'"
You can't refuse it because you 'don't want it' even if it meets all planning regulations.
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| Quote: Fully "You can't refuse it because you 'don't want it' even if it meets all planning regulations.'"
Fully. how did you get on to Ipswtch Town mate
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| Quote: G.Price Fan Club "Not got the time today Georgie.
If your so confident then good for you. You've obviously got nothing to worry about in the next 12 months.
Happy days.
Although I do think you (& others) being a large flightless bird who likes to dip his head in the sand!'"
I never said anything was definite about planning permission, supermarkets or anything else - all I was doing was stating facts.
The half-truth and innuendo that you were promulgating in your post about what the council "want" is laughable, and you know it (or if you don't, you ought to.)
And you haven't got the time to argue because you know, deep down, that I'm right.
You excelled yourself with the "head in the sand" quote as the large flightless birds you mention DO NOT actually do this. See rlhererl for details.
It always pays to keep your mouth shut if you don't know the facts. That way, it stops you getting found out!
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| Quote: bazzo44 "Fully. how did you get on to Ipswtch Town mate'"
Family mate. Hate Leeds Utd fans too so would never support them.
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| Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "I never said anything was definite about planning permission, supermarkets or anything else - all I was doing was stating facts.
The half-truth and innuendo that you were promulgating in your post about what the council "want" is laughable, and you know it (or if you don't, you ought to.)
And you haven't got the time to argue because you know, deep down, that I'm right.
You excelled yourself with the "head in the sand" quote as the large flightless birds you mention DO NOT actually do this. See rlhererl for details.
It always pays to keep your mouth shut if you don't know the facts. That way, it stops you getting found out!'"
I believe the word is: owned!
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| Quote: Fully "I believe the word is
I have to agree.
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